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[Veritas-bu] User vs Scheduled backups

2004-10-21 09:05:01
Subject: [Veritas-bu] User vs Scheduled backups
From: scottd AT HanoverDirect DOT com (Deiter Scott)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:05:01 -0400
        Looks like we use the netbackup schedule.  The start window for our
weekly's
is from 3 till 12 AM.  Can we safely extend the BPSTART_TIMEOUT to 28800.
This is the 
time we must wait for an oracle update job to finish before we stop oracle
and start the 
cold backups.

>From    Scott Deiter 
        Hanover Direct, Inc. 
        Tech services 
        (717) 633-3298 
        scottd AT hanoverdirect DOT com 




-----Original Message-----
From: Deiter Scott 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:30 AM
To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] User vs Scheduled backups


  Have I misread the doc? 
This is a snippet from the bpbackup command in the admin guide
======================================================
On master servers
Using the second form of the command shown above, bpbackup starts an
immediate-manual backup of a client. This variation requires the -i option
on the
bpbackup command and is available only to the administrator on the master
server. It is
the equivalent of starting a manual backup from the NetBackup
administrator's interface.
Use the -h option to specify the host.
=======================================================

Currently our operators are performing the backups by using the 'button' on
a windows server running the admin console.  If we fire the bpbackup command
on the master/media server what will we lose?

>From    Scott Deiter 
        Hanover Direct, Inc. 
        Tech services 
        (717) 633-3298 
        scottd AT hanoverdirect DOT com 




-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:32 PM
To: Deiter Scott
Cc: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] User vs Scheduled backups


On 10/20/04 13:58, Deiter Scott wrote:

> I have been told that there are disadvantages to using bpbackup over
>  the veritas schedule.  What is the good/bad that happens when you 
> give up the schedule for bpbackup?  

The biggest disadvantages to rolling out your own scheduler is that you 
are now responsible for making sure that there are tape drives 
available, and you must handle any and all failure scenarios.  If you 
let NetBackup worry about failures, retries happen automatically based 
on a scheduled that you've already defined.

We've done some of our scheduling with NetBackup and with other backup 
products, and frankly, it just sucks.

-- 
Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
mailto:ewilts AT ewilts DOT org

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