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[Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round the bend!]

2004-08-25 08:45:50
Subject: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round the bend!]
From: kevin.m.smith AT siemens DOT com (Smith, Kevin)
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 13:45:50 +0100
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OK, thanks for that - I did read this section in the MM guide. My vm.conf is
as follows:

MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS = 0 8 3:4:5:6:7:8

The [Physical] label on the tape is [for example] PPB045L2, I want Netbackup
to label and ID the tape as B045L2

Any other ideas?

Thanks for your input so far people.

Regards

Kev Smith

-----Original Message-----
From: Penelope Carr [mailto:Penelope.Carr AT veritas DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 12:33 PM
To: jamesp AT hisser DOT org
Cc: Smith, Kevin; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round the bend!]


I correct myself.  I am assuming you are at 4.5, here is what the Admin
Guide states:

Media ID Generation
MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS = robot_num barcode_length media_ID_rule

Note To use this entry, the robot must support barcodes and the robot type
cannot be one
of the API robots.

If this entry is specified in vm.conf, it controls Media Manager media ID
generation. This
entry is read and interpreted on the host where vmcheckxxx and vmupdate are
running
as part of the robot inventory operation.
You choose how media IDs are created by defining rules that specify which
characters of a
barcode on tape will be used. You also can specify alphanumeric characters
to be inserted
in the ID.

Multiple media ID creation entries can be specified, allowing media ID
generation to be
specific for each robot; or for each barcode format having different numbers
of characters
in the barcode. This allows flexibility for multi-media.
If MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS entries are not present in vm.conf or you enter an
invalid entry, Media Manager uses the right-most (the last) six characters
of the barcode to
create its media ID as the default.
robot_num is the robot number.
barcode_length is the length of the barcode.
Appendix A, Media Manager Reference Topics
Media Manager Configuration File (vm.conf)
289

A media_ID_rule consists of a maximum of six fields delimited by colons.
Numbers in the
fields of the rule define the positions of the characters in the barcode
that are to be
extracted (numbering is from the left). For example, 2 in a field extracts
the second
character from the barcode. The numbers can be specified in any order.
Characters prefixed by # in a field, result in that character being inserted
in that position in
the generated ID. Any alphanumeric characters that are specified must be
valid for a
media ID. You can use rules to create media IDs of many varied formats, but
keep in mind
that the difference in the label on the media and the generated media ID may
make it
difficult to manage your media. The following is an example rule and the
resulting
generated media ID:
Barcode on the tape: 032945L1
Media ID rule: #N:2:3:4:5:6
Generated media ID: N32945
Also see "Media ID Generation Rules" on page 262. 

I hope this helps.

Penelope

-----Original Message-----
From: jamesp AT hisser DOT org [mailto:jamesp AT hisser DOT org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:08 AM
To: Penelope Carr
Cc: Smith, Kevin; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round the bend!]

Netbackup can label a tape with anything it likes - the Media ID doesn't
have to be the same as the Barcode. It's just more sensible if they are the
same.

Cheers
James

Quoting Penelope Carr <Penelope.Carr AT veritas DOT com>:

> Netbackups reads the preprinted barcodes that are stuck on your tapes.  
> If you want Netbackup to label them you cannot use preprinted barcodes 
> that I am aware of.  If you have two different types of tapes in your 
> library you could order specific number sets from HP and set the 
> barcode rules specific to the number sets to separate your tapes.
>
> Anyone correct me if I am wrong.
>
> Penelope
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of 
> jamesp AT hisser DOT org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:06 AM
> To: Smith, Kevin
> Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round the 
> bend!]
>
> Kevin
>
> The L2 part is identifying the tapes as LTO2, and is not shown to 
> netbackup when you do an inventory.
>
> I don't know if you can configure the library to send this also, check 
> your docs.
>
> I'm not sure if you can configure barcode rules to ADD the L2 on the 
> end, but this may also be possible!
>
> Cheers
> James
>
> Quoting "Smith, Kevin" <kevin.m.smith AT siemens DOT com>:
>
> > All,
> >
> > I have a number of LTO-II tapes with printed HP barcodes in the 
> > format
> > PPBxxxL2
> > My barcode rules in vm.conf state : 0 8 3:4:5:6:7:8 as I would like 
> > any new tapes to be labelled with BxxxL2 {IE the last 6 chrs] I have 
> > restarted NBU, stuck brand new [unlabeled ] tapes in my L180 CAP, 
> > re-inventoried and netbackup creates the tapes as PPBxxx WITHOUT the
> > L2 [Which I want]
> >
> > Anyone got any ideas why?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Kev.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Martin Falk [mailto:martin.falk AT web DOT de]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:52 AM
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup User Group
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > All of the participants of this mailing list are in my opinion 
> > experts in there field. Everybody tries to help each other. This is 
> > absolutely great. I just want to give all of us the place to share 
> > information about Netbackup und related topics. This place should 
> > give us all the opportunity discuss not only the problems that come 
> > with this mailing
> list.
> >
> > Its not my intention to be in competition with this mailing list. I 
> > just want to give something back to you all who helped me a lot from 
> > time to time. Just see it as a extended way of sharing information.
> >
> > Thats why I startet a web community for Veritas Netbackup.
> >
> > You will find it here: http://www.veritas-usergroup.de.vu
> > <http://www.veritas-usergroup.de.vu>
> >
> > It is completely free for everybody. I hope you like it and you 
> > register and ta! ke part in this community. If you like it please
> recommend it to others.
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >   <http://img.web.de/p.gif>
> > Aufnehmen, abschicken, nah sein - So einfach ist WEB.DE Video-Mail:
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>OK, thanks for that - I did read this section in the MM guide. 
My vm.conf is as follows:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS = 0 8 3:4:5:6:7:8</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>The [Physical] label on the tape is [for example] PPB045L2, I 
want Netbackup to label and ID the tape as B045L2</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Any other ideas?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks for your input so far people.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Regards</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Kev Smith</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Penelope Carr [<A HREF="mailto:Penelope.Carr AT veritas 
DOT com">mailto:Penelope.Carr AT veritas DOT com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 12:33 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: jamesp AT hisser DOT org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Cc: Smith, Kevin; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round 
the bend!]</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I correct myself.&nbsp; I am assuming you are at 4.5, here is 
what the Admin</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Guide states:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Media ID Generation</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS = robot_num barcode_length 
media_ID_rule</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Note To use this entry, the robot must support barcodes and the 
robot type</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>cannot be one</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of the API robots.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>If this entry is specified in vm.conf, it controls Media 
Manager media ID</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>generation. This</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>entry is read and interpreted on the host where vmcheckxxx and 
vmupdate are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>running</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>as part of the robot inventory operation.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>You choose how media IDs are created by defining rules that 
specify which</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>characters of a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>barcode on tape will be used. You also can specify 
alphanumeric characters</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>to be inserted</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in the ID.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Multiple media ID creation entries can be specified, allowing 
media ID</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>generation to be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>specific for each robot; or for each barcode format having 
different numbers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of characters</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in the barcode. This allows flexibility for multi-media.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>If MEDIA_ID_BARCODE_CHARS entries are not present in vm.conf 
or you enter an</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>invalid entry, Media Manager uses the right-most (the last) 
six characters</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>of the barcode to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>create its media ID as the default.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>robot_num is the robot number.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>barcode_length is the length of the barcode.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Appendix A, Media Manager Reference Topics</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Media Manager Configuration File (vm.conf)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>289</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>A media_ID_rule consists of a maximum of six fields delimited 
by colons.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Numbers in the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>fields of the rule define the positions of the characters in 
the barcode</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that are to be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>extracted (numbering is from the left). For example, 2 in a 
field extracts</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the second</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>character from the barcode. The numbers can be specified in 
any order.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Characters prefixed by # in a field, result in that character 
being inserted</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>in that position in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>the generated ID. Any alphanumeric characters that are 
specified must be</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>valid for a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>media ID. You can use rules to create media IDs of many varied 
formats, but</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>keep in mind</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>that the difference in the label on the media and the 
generated media ID may</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>make it</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>difficult to manage your media. The following is an example 
rule and the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>resulting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>generated media ID:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Barcode on the tape: 032945L1</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Media ID rule: #N:2:3:4:5:6</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Generated media ID: N32945</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Also see &quot;Media ID Generation Rules&quot; on page 262. 
</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>I hope this helps.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Penelope</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: jamesp AT hisser DOT org [<A HREF="mailto:jamesp AT 
hisser DOT org">mailto:jamesp AT hisser DOT org</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 7:08 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Penelope Carr</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Cc: Smith, Kevin; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me round 
the bend!]</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Netbackup can label a tape with anything it likes - the Media 
ID doesn't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>have to be the same as the Barcode. It's just more sensible if 
they are the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>same.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>James</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Quoting Penelope Carr &lt;Penelope.Carr AT veritas DOT 
com&gt;:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Netbackups reads the preprinted barcodes that are stuck on 
your tapes.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; If you want Netbackup to label them you cannot use 
preprinted barcodes </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; that I am aware of.&nbsp; If you have two different types 
of tapes in your </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; library you could order specific number sets from HP and 
set the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; barcode rules specific to the number sets to separate 
your tapes.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Anyone correct me if I am wrong.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Penelope</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; [<A HREF="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn 
DOT edu">mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</A>] On Behalf 
Of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; jamesp AT hisser DOT org</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 6:06 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: Smith, Kevin</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] LTO Barcode rules [Driving me 
round the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; bend!]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Kevin</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; The L2 part is identifying the tapes as LTO2, and is not 
shown to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; netbackup when you do an inventory.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I don't know if you can configure the library to send 
this also, check </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; your docs.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I'm not sure if you can configure barcode rules to ADD 
the L2 on the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; end, but this may also be possible!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Cheers</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; James</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Quoting &quot;Smith, Kevin&quot; &lt;kevin.m.smith AT 
siemens DOT com&gt;:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; All,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; I have a number of LTO-II tapes with printed HP 
barcodes in the </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; format</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; PPBxxxL2</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; My barcode rules in vm.conf state : 0 8 3:4:5:6:7:8 
as I would like </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; any new tapes to be labelled with BxxxL2 {IE the 
last 6 chrs] I have </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; restarted NBU, stuck brand new [unlabeled ] tapes in 
my L180 CAP, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; re-inventoried and netbackup creates the tapes as 
PPBxxx WITHOUT the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; L2 [Which I want]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Anyone got any ideas why?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; TIA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Kev.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; From: Martin Falk [<A HREF="mailto:martin.falk AT 
web DOT de">mailto:martin.falk AT web DOT de</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:52 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup User Group</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Hello everyone,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; All of the participants of this mailing list are in 
my opinion </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; experts in there field. Everybody tries to help each 
other. This is </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; absolutely great. I just want to give all of us the 
place to share </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; information about Netbackup und related topics. This 
place should </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; give us all the opportunity discuss not only the 
problems that come </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; with this mailing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; list.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Its not my intention to be in competition with this 
mailing list. I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; just want to give something back to you all who 
helped me a lot from </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; time to time. Just see it as a extended way of 
sharing information.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Thats why I startet a web community for Veritas 
Netbackup.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; You will find it here: <A 
HREF="http://www.veritas-usergroup.de.vu"; 
TARGET="_blank">http://www.veritas-usergroup.de.vu</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.veritas-usergroup.de.vu"; 
TARGET="_blank">http://www.veritas-usergroup.de.vu</A>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; It is completely free for everybody. I hope you like 
it and you </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; register and ta! ke part in this community. If you 
like it please</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; recommend it to others.</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Best Regards</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Martin</FONT>
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