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[Veritas-bu] RE: Are Image ID's unique?

2004-06-10 12:28:02
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RE: Are Image ID's unique?
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com (Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:28:02 -0600
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Nope - no ITC or other duplications on any of our backups.  The FRAG entries
for this output - snipped from what I sent to the list - only shows
single-copies for all images.
 
I did check some of our regular filesystem backups and they show duplication
too so this isn't unique to the Oracle policies.
 
-M
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Isidro Rodriguez [mailto:irodriguez AT arsenaldigital DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:13 AM
To: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Are Image ID's unique?



Are you using Inline Tape Copy? 

Do this on that image to see if multiple copies are being created: 

bpimagelist -L -backupid ue-13_1086497004 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com [ mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com
<mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com> ] 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:03 PM 
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
Subject: [Veritas-bu] RE: Are Image ID's unique? 


An (slightly munged for security purposes) example: 

IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086497004 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle CONTSCHED

2 0 1086497004 60 1088311404 0 0 6688 1 1 1 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086497004_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
*NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086494014 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle FULLSCHED

2 0 1086494014 2896 1088308414 0 0 27010336 1 1 1 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086494014_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
*NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086493915 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* root 
Automatic_Scheduled_Backup 0 0 1086493915 3164 1088308315 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086493915_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0

0 *NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086490046 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle CONTSCHED

2 0 1086490046 52 1088304446 0 0 6688 1 1 1 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086490046_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
*NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086497004 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle CONTSCHED

2 0 1086497004 60 1088311404 0 0 6688 1 1 1 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086497004_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
*NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086494014 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle FULLSCHED

2 0 1086494014 2896 1088308414 0 0 27010336 1 1 1 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086494014_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
*NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086493915 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* root 
Automatic_Scheduled_Backup 0 0 1086493915 3164 1088308315 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086493915_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 0

0 *NULL* 0 0 0 
IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086490046 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle CONTSCHED

2 0 1086490046 52 1088304446 0 0 6688 1 1 1 0 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086490046_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0  0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
*NULL* 0 0 0 

...sorting out the image id's... 
ue-13_1086497004 
ue-13_1086494014 
ue-13_1086493915 
ue-13_1086490046 
ue-13_1086497004 
ue-13_1086494014 
ue-13_1086493915 
ue-13_1086490046 


...More readable... 
Backed Up         Expires       Files       KB  C  Sched Type   Policy 
----------------  ---------- -------- --------  -  ------------ ------------

06/05/2004 22:43  06/26/2004        1     6688  N  User Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 21:53  06/26/2004        1 27010336  N  User Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 21:51  06/26/2004        0        0  N  Full Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 20:47  06/26/2004        1     6688  N  User Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 22:43  06/26/2004        1     6688  N  User Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 21:53  06/26/2004        1 27010336  N  User Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 21:51  06/26/2004        0        0  N  Full Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 
06/05/2004 20:47  06/26/2004        1     6688  N  User Backup 
P_UE-13_RM_Hot 




-----Original Message----- 
From: Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:57 AM 
To: Veritasbu (E-mail) 
Subject: Are Image ID's unique? 


I thought the Image ID was unique, the "key" for the Image database.  For my

v4.5 FP4 installation, though, the bpimagelist output, without a doubt, 
seems to be doubling each output line - at least on the backups done through

an Oracle application policy. 

Ideas? 

-M 

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================================================= 
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<DIV><SPAN class=383402516-10062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Nope 
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no ITC or other duplications on any of our backups.&nbsp; The FRAG entries for 
this output - snipped from what I sent to the list - only shows single-copies 
for all images.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383402516-10062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383402516-10062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I did 
check some of our regular filesystem backups and they show duplication too so 
this isn't unique to the Oracle policies.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383402516-10062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=383402516-10062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=383402516-10062004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=383402516-10062004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=383402516-10062004>&nbsp;</SPAN>-----Original 
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Isidro Rodriguez 
[mailto:irodriguez AT arsenaldigital DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 
10, 2004 
10:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO; 
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Veritas-bu] 
RE: Are 
Image ID's unique?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <P><FONT size=2>Are you using Inline Tape Copy?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Do this on that image to see if multiple copies are being 
  created:</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>bpimagelist -L -backupid ue-13_1086497004</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: 
  Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com [<A 
  href="mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com">mailto:Mark.Donaldson AT cexp 
DOT com</A>]</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:03 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>Subject: 
  [Veritas-bu] RE: Are Image ID's unique?</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>An (slightly munged for security purposes) example:</FONT> 
</P>
  <P><FONT size=2>IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086497004 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* 
  oracle CONTSCHED</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>2 0 1086497004 60 1088311404 0 0 
6688 
  1 1 1 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086497004_UBAK.f *NULL* 
  *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0&nbsp; 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>*NULL* 0 0 
  0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086494014 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 
4 
  *NULL* oracle FULLSCHED</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>2 0 1086494014 2896 
1088308414 
  0 0 27010336 1 1 1 0</FONT> <BR><FONT 
size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086494014_UBAK.f 
  *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0&nbsp; 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>*NULL* 0 
0 
  0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>IMAGE ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086493915 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 
4 
  *NULL* root</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Automatic_Scheduled_Backup 0 0 1086493915 
  3164 1088308315 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086493915_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 
  0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>0 *NULL* 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>IMAGE 
  ub-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086490046 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle CONTSCHED</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>2 0 1086490046 52 1088304446 0 0 6688 1 1 1 0</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086490046_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 
  0&nbsp; 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>*NULL* 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086497004 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle 
  CONTSCHED</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>2 0 1086497004 60 1088311404 0 0 6688 1 1 1 
  0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086497004_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 
  0 0 0&nbsp; 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>*NULL* 0 0 0</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086494014 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* 
  oracle FULLSCHED</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>2 0 1086494014 2896 1088308414 0 0 
  27010336 1 1 1 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086494014_UBAK.f 
  *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 0&nbsp; 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>*NULL* 0 
0 
  0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>IMAGE ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086493915 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 
4 
  *NULL* root</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Automatic_Scheduled_Backup 0 0 1086493915 
  3164 1088308315 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086493915_FULL.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 0 0 0 0 *NULL* 0 0 0 
  0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>0 *NULL* 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>IMAGE 
  ue-13 0 0 6 ue-13_1086490046 P_UE-13_RM_Hot_ 4 *NULL* oracle CONTSCHED</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>2 0 1086490046 52 1088304446 0 0 6688 1 1 1 0</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot__1086490046_UBAK.f *NULL* *NULL* 0 1 0 0 
  0&nbsp; 0 0 0 0 0 0 0</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>*NULL* 0 0 0</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>...sorting out the image id's...</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>ue-13_1086497004</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ue-13_1086494014</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>ue-13_1086493915</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>ue-13_1086490046</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ue-13_1086497004</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>ue-13_1086494014</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>ue-13_1086493915</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>ue-13_1086490046</FONT> 
  </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>...More readable...</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Backed 
  Up&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Expires&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  Files&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; KB&nbsp; C&nbsp; Sched 
  Type&nbsp;&nbsp; Policy</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>----------------&nbsp; 
  ---------- -------- --------&nbsp; -&nbsp; ------------ ------------</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>06/05/2004 22:43&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  6688&nbsp; N&nbsp; User Backup</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>06/05/2004 21:53&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 27010336&nbsp; N&nbsp; 
  User Backup</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>06/05/2004 21:51&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; N&nbsp; Full 
Backup</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>06/05/2004 
20:47&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  6688&nbsp; N&nbsp; User Backup</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>06/05/2004 22:43&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  6688&nbsp; N&nbsp; User Backup</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>06/05/2004 21:53&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1 27010336&nbsp; N&nbsp; 
  User Backup</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> <BR><FONT 
  size=2>06/05/2004 21:51&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  0&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 0&nbsp; N&nbsp; Full 
Backup</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>06/05/2004 
20:47&nbsp; 
  06/26/2004&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  6688&nbsp; N&nbsp; User Backup</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>P_UE-13_RM_Hot</FONT> 
  </P><BR><BR><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: 
  Donaldson, Mark - Broomfield, CO </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Thursday, June 
  10, 2004 9:57 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>To: Veritasbu (E-mail)</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: Are Image ID's unique?</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=2>I thought the Image ID was unique, the "key" for the Image 
  database.&nbsp; For my</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>v4.5 FP4 installation, though, 
  the bpimagelist output, without a doubt,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>seems to be 
  doubling each output line - at least on the backups done through</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>an Oracle application policy.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>Ideas?</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-M</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=2>=================================================</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>&nbsp; There are 10 kinds of people in the world,</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>&nbsp; those that know binary, and those that don't.</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>=================================================</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>&nbsp; Mark Donaldson - SA - Corporate Express</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>=================================================</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>_______________________________________________</FONT> 
  <BR><FONT size=2>Veritas-bu maillist&nbsp; -&nbsp; 
  Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><A 
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