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[Veritas-bu] Request for Comment...

2004-06-09 12:14:26
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Request for Comment...
From: Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com (Mark.Donaldson AT cexp DOT com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:14:26 -0600
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One question would be how the vendor intends to restore/scrub.  I they
intend to import these tapes into another NB implementation, then the
archive catalog won't be useful - the import would recreate the catalog
information.
 
Doing what your planning wouldn't hurt but might not be necessary.
 
-M

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of Stump, 
Robert
(Contractor) (DRMS)
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:34 AM
To: 'Marx, Keath'; Veritas-Bu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Request for Comment...


Sounds solid to me.
I would also include a copy of the bp.conf file in the catalog backup
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Marx, Keath [mailto:Keath.Marx AT anthem DOT com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:16 AM
To: Veritas-Bu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Request for Comment...



Okay gang,

  I need an opinion on an idea I had.  

Background:  For the past couple of years I have had to make a third copy of
every full exchange backup (I included the system state for the Exchange
2000 servers and the AD Controllers) and ship it off-site with an infinite
retention period.  I got the word last week that we will be stopping this
practice in the next week or so due to the implementation of an active mail
archiving system.

Now there are 323 tapes in this 'Archive_Exchange' tape pool.  The original
instructions said that at some point a contractor would take these tapes,
restore the data, scrub the duplicate messages and upload them to the
archive database.

My current catalog backup is 11 gig.  I realize this is miniscule compared
to serious implementations of Netbackup.  My current Netbackup system is
considered a point solution so I don't backup that much.

The Plan:  Here is what I was considering doing.  Perform a catalog backup
to tape, wrap that tape in bright red paper and store it with the archive
tapes.  Then I would expire all of the archive tapes from the system and
delete the tapes.   I will retain the most recent tapes in the database for
a couple of months just in case.

My reasoning behind this is that I do not have the drive resources to
perform the restores of these tapes in my production environment and
therefore the restore (if it ever happens) would need to be done on a
separate system.  Therefore I see no reason to retain the catalogs on my
production system and can reduce my catalog size considerably.

The Request:  Okay what flaws are there in my plan?  Bugs, holes,
weaknesses, stupidity, etc...?

Thanks


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<DIV><SPAN class=971141216-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>One 
question would be how the vendor intends to restore/scrub.&nbsp; I they intend 
to import these tapes into another NB implementation, then the archive catalog 
won't be useful - the import would recreate the catalog 
information.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=971141216-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=971141216-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Doing 
what your planning wouldn't hurt but might not be necessary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=971141216-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=971141216-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
size=2>-M</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> 
  veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
  [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]<B>On Behalf Of 
</B>Stump, 
  Robert (Contractor) (DRMS)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:34 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Marx, Keath'; Veritas-Bu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: 
[Veritas-bu] 
  Request for Comment...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=797393215-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2>Sounds solid to me.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=797393215-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I 
  would also include a copy of the bp.conf file in the catalog 
  backup</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=797393215-09062004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff 
  size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Marx, Keath 
  [mailto:Keath.Marx AT anthem DOT com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 09, 
2004 11:16 
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> Veritas-Bu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] Request for 
  Comment...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>Okay gang,</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>&nbsp; I need an opinion 
  on an idea I had.&nbsp;</FONT> </P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>Background:&nbsp; For the 
  past couple of years I have had to make a third copy of every full exchange 
  backup (I included the system state for the Exchange 2000 servers and the AD 
  Controllers) and ship it off-site</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>with a</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>n infinite 
retention 
  period.&nbsp; I got the word last week that we will be stopping this practice 
  in the next week or so due to the implementation of an active mail 
  archiving</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>system.</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>Now there are 323 tapes 
in 
  this</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>'</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#000080 size=2>Archive_Exchange</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>'</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2> tape pool.&nbsp; The 
  original instructions said that at some point a contractor would take these 
  tapes, restore the data, scrub the duplicate messages and upload them to the 
  archive database.</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>My current catalog backup 
  is 11 gig.&nbsp; I realize this is miniscule compared to serious 
  implementations of</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>Netbackup</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>.&nbsp; My 
  current Netbackup system is considered a point solution so I don</FONT><FONT 
  face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>'</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>t backup that much.</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>The Plan:&nbsp; Here is 
  what I was considering doing.&nbsp; Perform a catalog backup to tape, wrap 
  that tape in bright red paper and store it with the archive tapes.&nbsp; Then 
  I would expire all of the archive tapes from the system and delete the 
  tapes.</FONT> <FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>&nbsp; I will retain the 
  most recent tapes in the database for a couple of months just in 
  case.</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>My reasoning behind this 
  is that I do not have the drive resources to perform the restores of these 
  tape</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>s</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#000080 size=2> in my producti</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>on environment and therefore the restore (if it ever happens) would 
  need to be done on a separate system</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>.&nbsp; Therefore I see no reason to retain the catalogs on my 
  production system</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2> and</FONT> 
  <FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>can</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
color=#000080 
  size=2> reduce my catalog size considerably.</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>The Request:&nbsp; Okay 
  what flaws are there in my plan?&nbsp; Bugs, holes, weaknesses, stupidity, 
  etc</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>...</FONT><FONT face=Arial 
  color=#000080 size=2>?</FONT></P>
  <P align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 
  size=2>Thanks</FONT></P><BR>CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, 
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