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[Veritas-bu] SSO with disk?

2004-04-28 11:55:09
Subject: [Veritas-bu] SSO with disk?
From: JSimon AT reliant DOT com (Simon, John)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 10:55:09 -0500
Back to the original question of sharing disk, you could use QFS, which would 
allow multiple machines to write to the same fibre attached disks.

http://www.sun.com/products-n-solutions/hxardware/docs/Software/Storage_Software/Sun_QFS_Software/index.html

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu]On Behalf Of White,
Steve
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:20 AM
To: Major, Rusty; Thomas Tschida; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SSO with disk?


If you're using the Vault option, 4.5 handles d-d-t pretty well.  You
backup the primary copy to disk, and then you configure vault to
duplicate the images to tape.  You can configure how long the images
remain on disk after the tape backup, and you can choose to make the
tape copy primary, as well as de-multiplexing the tape copy should you
choose to.  Of course you can also change the retention of the tape copy
as well.

As to the original question of sharing the disk storage units, one way
you could do that is with network-based storage.  Not sure you'd
actually want to go that route, since your traffic is still going over
the network at that point, but it's an option.

HTH

Steve White 

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Major,
Rusty
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:49 AM
To: Thomas Tschida; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SSO with disk?

>From my understanding, 4.5 doesn't support true disk-disk-tape. Sure,
you could backup to a disk STU, then backup these images to tape without
a problem. But 4.5 doesn't have a way to relate the meta file info
between the backups to disk and the backup to tapes.
What I'm trying to say is that your restore process will now be two
steps: find the image backed up from disk STU, restore it, then find the
file and restore it. It might even involve importing and other trickery
to get it to work how you want.

5.0 is supposed to support this technology, but that's about all I know
of it. Besides that, 5.0, according to the list, is not really a good
solution at this point.

If you're really interested in doing d-d-t right now, check out ADIC's
Pathlight VX, or other similar products.

Rusty

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Andresen [mailto:gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 6:34 PM
> To: 'Thomas Tschida'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SSO with disk?
> 
> 
> Short answer no.
> 
> Disk storage units are disk storage (with a file system) 
> directly attached
> to a media server (granted the disks could be on a SAN) and 
> would not be
> shared. To keep your dup traffic off the net you would want 
> to make sure
> the disk STU and the tape are on the same media server.
> 
> Potentially you could use CFS from VERITAS where the media 
> servers used a
> cluster file system between them. However making the CFS 
> cluster with the
> media servers involved could be a somewhat interesting configuration
> challenge :--).
> 
> Gary Andresen 
> Impossible Happens, Plan Ahead 
> Pacific Northwest Data Inc. 
> Tel: 503.701.5185 
> Fax: 503.692.3910 
> gary.andresen AT pnwdata DOT com 
> www.pnwdata.com 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
> > admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Tschida
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 1:51 PM
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] SSO with disk?
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > we are looking at migrating to Disk-Disk-Tape.  We will likely run
> > primary backups to disk, and then duplicate to tape.  We 
> have a library
> > with 12 drives and SSO for all drives.  Does anyone know if 
> disk based
> > storage units can take advantage of SSO, or should we keep the SSO
> > licenses associated with the tape drives so the media 
> servers can take
> > advantage when running duplicates?
> > 
> > Any recommendations or info is appreciated.
> > 
> > Tom Tschida
> > United Defense
> > 
> > 
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