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[Veritas-bu] NDMP

2003-05-02 18:02:47
Subject: [Veritas-bu] NDMP
From: smohr AT ctsinc DOT net (Sean Mohr)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 18:02:47 -0400
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Hi Folks
 
 
Here is what I got :
 
Solaris Master Server in SSO Environment with SUN Media and HP UX Media
Servers
Connected to a L700e 2 Silo unit ACS controlled
 
 
I and backup in 5 different EMC Celera's via NDMP.  Some are UFS and
some are CIFS volumes.
 
Question is . When dealing with CIFS Volumes
 
 
When NBU opens up a NDMP stream, I assume that the NDMP interface on the
Celera builds the file list when its get the name of the volume from NBU
has was given to it.  Then Celerra sends the all of the files on that
share thru the NDMP stream back to the tape drive on the SAN.
 
When we backup a Volume of say 220G with 200,000 files I get a status 0
on the end of the job.
When we restore that volume, I am on getting 210G and about 190,000
files restored and all of the permissions are not being correctly set.
 
I am not sure if the permission problem and the missing file problems
are part of the same issue.
 
My question to the group is .
 
 In a NDMP setup (and this answer may or may not Celerra specific) what
happens when open files are encountered. My belief is that the Celerra
would do whatever it is needed to handle any open file issues.  If for
some reason a lock could not be granted, does anyone know if there is a
feature in the NDMP protocol to let Netbackup know that files were
skipped due to the lack of file lock, thus making the return code on the
job a one instead of zero or would you think that the skipping of the
files would be logged internal on the Celerra and Netbackup would never
know the difference?
 
Thanks in advance
 
 
 
Sean 
 
 
 
 
 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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font-family:Arial'>Here is what I <span class=3DGramE>got =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Solaris Master Server in SSO Environment with SUN =
Media and
HP UX Media Servers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Connected to <span class=3DGramE>a</span> L700e 2 =
Silo unit
ACS controlled<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I and backup in 5 different EMC Celera&#8217;s via
NDMP.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Some are UFS and =
some are CIFS
volumes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Question is &#8230; When dealing with CIFS =
Volumes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>When NBU opens up a NDMP stream, I assume that the =
NDMP
interface on the Celera builds the file list when its get the name of =
the
volume from NBU has was given to it.<span =
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;
</span>Then <span class=3DSpellE>Celerra</span> sends the all of the =
files on
that share thru the NDMP stream back to the tape drive on the =
SAN.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>When we backup a Volume of say 220G with 200,000 =
files I get
a status 0 on the end of the job.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>When we restore that volume, I am on getting 210G and =
about
190,000 files restored and all of the permissions are not being =
correctly set.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am not sure if the permission problem and the =
missing file
problems are part of the same issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>My question to the group is =
&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp;</span>In a =
NDMP setup (and
this answer may or may not <span class=3DSpellE>Celerra</span> specific) =
what
happens when open files are encountered. My belief is that the <span
class=3DSpellE>Celerra</span> would do whatever it is needed to handle =
any open
file issues.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>If for some =
reason a lock
could not be granted, does anyone know if there is a feature in the NDMP
protocol to let Netbackup know that files were skipped due to the lack =
of file
lock, thus making the return code on the job a one instead of zero or =
would you
think that the skipping of the files would be logged internal on the =
<span
class=3DSpellE>Celerra</span> and Netbackup would never know the =
difference?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks in advance<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
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