[Veritas-bu] RE: Veritas-bu digest, Vol 1 #1990 - 3 msgs
2003-03-04 09:22:37
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[Veritas-bu] RE: Veritas-bu digest, Vol 1 #1990 - 3 msgs |
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thoke AT northpeak DOT com (Tim Hoke) |
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Tue, 4 Mar 2003 08:22:37 -0600 (CST) |
TapeAlert is enabled based on the drive firmware.
I stand corrected on my tpautoconf -t command.... I think it has to be 4.5
in order to show the TapeAlert enabled. Here's an example output from 4.5
with a drive that supports TapeAlert:
TPAC45 QUANTUM DLT8000 0250 PMC40P1629 -1 -1 -1 -1 /dev/rmt/0cbn -
TapeAlert enabled
I guess you will have to confirm with STK if the 9480 version 1.30
firmware supports TapeAlert.
Then it's just a matter of configuring a cleaning tape in the
library. Then when the drive needs cleaning, NBU can just grab the tape
and clean the drive.
-Tim
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, vidit kohli wrote:
> Tim
>
> How to setup tape-alert in 3.41_3 on windows 2000
>
> before that how to check ith tpautoconf -t command, i mean what all
> following lines means
>
> E:\VERITAS\Volmgr\bin>tpautoconf -t
> STK 9840 1.30 331000039964 3 0 0 0 Tape0
> STK 9840 1.30 331000040407 3 0 1 0 Tape1
> STK 9840 1.30 - 3 0 2 0 Tape2
> STK 9840 1.30 331000040134 4 0 3 0 Tape3
> STK 9840 1.30 331000051916 4 0 4 0 Tape4
> STK 9840 1.30 331000051080 4 0 5 0 Tape5
> STK 9840 1.30 331002052015 5 0 6 0 Tape6
> STK 9840 1.30 331002036295 5 0 7 0 Tape7
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> vk
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> From: "Paul Bleimeyer" <paulb AT mayo DOT edu>
> Reply-To: "Bleimeyer, Paul W." <paulb AT mayo DOT edu>
> To: "'Tim Hoke'" <thoke AT northpeak DOT com>
> CC: <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>, "'vidit kohli'"
> <vidit_k AT hotmail DOT com>
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] RE: Veritas-bu digest, Vol 1 #1990 - 3 msgs
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:49:58 -0600
>
> Tim,
>
> Thanks for the update on the tape alert. This was and has not been our
> experience
> with NBU under 341. At the same time we just moved to 4a a couple months
> ago. I will
> stay with my previous statement concerning frequency based tape cleaning
> while
> running SSO. It just walks over the top of the value. At least at 341_4A
> with
> 9840A drives, and an L700 at 3.01.02 of the firmware. If someone has a
> different experience
> with frequency based cleaning and SSO under 4.5 I would be VERY interested
> in hearing about
> it. My plan at this time is to let the library keep doing the cleaning and
> keep it simple.
> I can always issue a tpclean command as needed, which has not been an issue
> since
> converting to library based cleaning.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Hoke [mailto:thoke AT northpeak DOT com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 4:19 PM
> > To: Paul Bleimeyer
> > Cc: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; 'vidit kohli'
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RE: Veritas-bu digest, Vol 1 #1990 - 3 msgs
> >
> >
> > Hmmm...
> >
> > Well, NBU does work in SSO with TapeAlert, as long as the
> > drives support
> > it.
> >
> > tpautoconf -t will show if they do or not.
> >
> > Frequency based cleaning doesn't (as noted) work in SSO.
> >
> > IF however, you are going to use Library based (Since
> > tapealert might not
> > work), then make sure to disable tape alert within NetBackup....
> >
> > On each media server:
> >
> > touch /usr/openv/volmgr/database/NO_TAPEALERT
> >
> > Then restart the daemons.
> >
> > And make sure you are at 3.4_4 or 4.5_1
> >
> > -Tim
> > thoke AT northpeak DOT com
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Paul Bleimeyer wrote:
> >
> > > > From: "vidit kohli" <vidit_k AT hotmail DOT com>
> > > > Subject: [Veritas-bu] 9840 drive cleaning in L700
> > >
> > > > I have setup Netbackup 3.4 to control 9840 drive cleaning in
> > > > L700, but
> > > > problem is that it don't work as required.
> > > > [my understanding was that when ever any drive needs cleaning
> > > > , netbackup
> > > > will perform before next backup starts for that 9840 drive]
> > > >
> > > > I have two cleaning media in the slots detected by media manager,
> > > > also tpclean -c option does manual clean fine
> > > >
> > > > Please advise if I'm missing any settings?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Vidit,
> > >
> > > I am going to reply here since I faced the same thing as
> > you about a year
> > > ago
> > > and this might help someone else out as well if they read
> > the archives later
> > > on.
> > >
> > > You mentioned in an email to me that you had SSO enabled on
> > your media and
> > > master
> > > servers. The reason I asked this is because we did the same
> > thing. Same
> > > problems too!
> > >
> > > In an SSO environment with an L700 you want the library to
> > clean the tape
> > > drives and not have veritas handle it. The reason is that
> > frequency base
> > > tape cleaning and tape alert fails under environments using SSO with
> > > veritas. The library should be made responsible for
> > cleaning the drives.
> > > This is not totally clear in the Veritas documentation when
> > referencing SSO
> > > environments. At least the last time I looked it was a
> > little sparse.
> > >
> > > So what the heck is going on then? Why does it fail under
> > SSO and not
> > > others?
> > > Here is why. It has to do with the tape cleaning and usage
> > counter getting
> > > reset.
> > > When you first media server mounts the tape and starts
> > using the drive, then
> > > the counter on usage in the drive starts running. For
> > example, you run about
> > > 10 tapes through this same drive via the
> > > same media server all weekend long during a full. The last
> > tape unmounts and
> > > the veritas
> > > media server notifies your master that it is done with the
> > drive and the
> > > drive is released.
> > > At this point your tape drive has a usage counter for the
> > amount of time
> > > this drive
> > > has been in use. Now veritas is currently setup to detect
> > this and will
> > > attempt to clean
> > > the drives. Everything looks great right?
> > >
> > > Here is where SSO gets in the mix. Now along comes media
> > server number 2.
> > >
> > > It has a number of policies/classes it is supposed to run as
> > > well and starts allocating drives. Including the one your
> > first media server
> > > just got done
> > > using. As soon as it connects to the tape drive that media
> > server 1 was just
> > > using, it
> > > resets the tape usage/cleaning counter on the drive and the
> > veritas job for
> > > cleaning
> > > never fires. Not good.
> > >
> > > So how do we fix this behavior? With SSO in the mix you
> > want to make sure
> > > that the library itself handles this process for you. Now
> > this gets a little
> > > bit interesting as well, since some of the prior releases
> > of firmware on the
> > > L700 didn't always handle this properly as well.
> > >
> > > Here is a link from support about the version issues:
> > > http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/240940.htm
> > >
> > > So once you get the veritas jobs disabled, now you want to
> > go to the front
> > > panel of your l700 or
> > > you can do this remotely if you have the horizon code
> > installed for remote
> > > support as well.
> > > You want to select the menu button and then find the main
> > library portion
> > > and enable library
> > > cleaning. This way when the "clean drive" light comes on,
> > your library will
> > > pull a cleaning tape
> > > and insert it into the drive for cleaning at the next
> > available interval.
> > > You also want to keep
> > > at least a couple tapes in your normal silo space for
> > running a manual
> > > cleaning at times.
> > > Every once in a while you may get a tape that ends up being
> > frozen and
> > > veritas decides to freeze
> > > it since it looks like a bad tape. Go ahead and manually
> > clean the drive and
> > > reload the tape again
> > > with it unfrozen. In some cases, this is just a drive that
> > is very close to
> > > needing a cleaning
> > > and has not tripped the clean drive light. Just a suggestion.
> > >
> > > I can tell you that we are running with horizon load level
> > 3.01.02 and
> > > 130.112E on our drives
> > > and its working like a champ. I would also recommend you
> > consider upgrading
> > > to the 341_4A patch
> > > if you can, since it also has some corrections in it for
> > releasing the
> > > drives properly. Just
> > > a suggestion. As always, check your fabric rev levels, tape
> > drivers, drive
> > > firmware, library firmware,
> > > and switch rev levels into account before changing anything
> > in your SAN.
> > >
> > > Here is the readme on 4a.
> > > http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/240940.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps you out.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Paul Bleimeyer
> > > Research Computing Facility
> > > Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN
> > >
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