NetBackup 4.5 Feature Pack 3, due out this month has full support for NDMP
features,  including direct access restores (you don't need to read the
whole backup to get one file).

-----Original Message-----
From: Deb [mailto:deb AT tickleme.llnl DOT gov]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:48 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Considering moving to NetBackup


I want to thank everyone for their responsses so far - keep 'em coming
though.

First of all let me respond to Jeff's inquiry, "Is there something in
particular that's got you irritated enough to migrate an entire enterprise
to
a different software?"

A lot of things.  Here's a list of just a few (from the Sun side of things):

1. With over 200 clients, updating them from one release to the next
requires
   going to each client (via login of some kind) and doing an interactive
   pkgadd.  I'm told that NBU allows client updates to be "pushed out."
This
   would save a lot of time, and be version reliable.

2. Version control is an issue with LGTO - if you get a patch for something,
   there is not centrally located way to track which box has what patch, and
   it is usually not in pkg format.  LGTO just doesn't track version
changes,
   such as date and time and version.

3. Scripting *can* be a nightmare - while some folks love mminfo, it takes a
   long time to get the incantations correct, and nsradmin -i is a joke, and
   not easily scripted.  There may be a perl module out there with bells and
   whistles, but I've yet to find it.

4. Size limitations on directives.

5. Installing devices and jukeboxes are a nightmare - if you mistype
something 
   in during jbconfig, you must start all over again from the beginning.
   LGTO doesn't support drive serialization.

6. LGTO doesn't support MacOS clients, NBU has support.

7. LGTO cannot stage to disk w/o purchasing an option, NBU can stage, need
   other products to to automatic staging, however.

8. LGTO writes in proprietary format to tapes, NBU is modified gnu-tar.
   
9. Takes forever to pre-label legato tapes PRIOR to backup.  NBU does it at
   backup time (less SA intervention).

As for NDMP - that is something I am interested in - however, if NBU has
lousy
support for that, we'd most likely use LGTO.  

I'd be interested in what the NBU issues are with NDMP.  I didn't know that
there ARE issues in this area!!

Comments, Suggestion, Jokes ??  :-)

Thanks, guys,

deb
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