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[Veritas-bu] SCRATCH-pool

2003-01-07 16:51:49
Subject: [Veritas-bu] SCRATCH-pool
From: Alexander.Lenderman AT morganstanley DOT com (Alexander Lenderman)
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:51:49 -0500
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Scott,

That's a perfect explanation. Usually Netbackup master server is a
volume database host, but there are can be exceptions and in my second
email I have corrected myself.

Thank you,
Alex

scott.kendall AT abbott DOT com wrote:

>
> This statement is more correct than the statement from someone earlier
> saying that it has to be on the master.  It is usually just assumed,
> and is the recommended best practice, to have only one Volume Database
> Host within a NetBackup domain and that it is also the master server
> for that domain (not to be confused with DNS domains or NT Domains).
>
> It needs to be on EACH master/media server THAT IS A VOLUME DATABASE
> HOST in order to be used as a Scratch Pool for media managed by that
> Volume Database Host.
>
> Sorry Curtis, but I think Backup Central needs to update their FAQ on
> this one!
>
> ... and the FAQ also states "Netbackup will setup a Netbackup pool
> that is used for database (indexes) backups. It will also setup a None
> pool which is available to any user or application for backups."
>
> The NetBackup pool is the default for all new classes/policies.  It is
> NOT just used for database backups.  Also, the None pool is not
> available to any user or application for backups as the FAQ states.
> Try choosing this in your policy.  It doesn't show up as an option, at
> least it doesn't in the 4.5 environments I'm looking at now... and I
> don't remember seeing it show up as an option for a Class in 3.4 or
> 3.2 either.
>
>
>
> - Scott
>
>
>
>  Alexander Lenderman
   <Alexander.Lenderman AT morganstanley DOT com>          To:        "Steven L.
   Sent by:                                 Sesar" <ssesar AT rcn DOT com>
   veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu          cc:        Espen 
Martinsen
                                            <Espen.Martinsen AT mnemonic DOT 
no>,
   01/06/2003 11:26 PM                      veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn 
DOT edu,
   Please respond to Alexander.Lenderman    esm AT mnemonic DOT no
                                                    Subject:        Re:
                                            [Veritas-bu] SCRATCH-pool
>
>
>
> It doesn't hurt to have it in media servers vm.conf, but it *does*
> works fine without it.
> I have checked it many times.
> The  SCRATCH pool must be defined on a volume database host.
>
>
> "Steven L. Sesar" wrote:
> No, that's not true! SCRATCH_POOL *does* need to be defined in the
> vm.conf
> file on each media server in the backup domain.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/109.html
>
> ..and check out your Media Manager Guide.
>
> On Monday 06 January 2003 10:58, Alexander Lenderman wrote:
> > The Scratch pool needs to be defined only in a master server
> vm.conf.
> > It is also necessary to define a default barcode rule for the
> scratch
> > pool, so all new tapes will be automatically added to the scratch
> pool
> > rather than to the NetBackup pool.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> >
> > "Steven L. Sesar" wrote:
> > > You need to define the scratch pool on each of your media servers.
>
> > >
> > > Add the following to your vm.conf file:
> > >
> > > SCRATCH_POOL = scratch
> > >
> > > ....assuming that the name of your scratch pool is "scratch".
> > >
> > > --Steve
> > >
> > > On Monday 06 January 2003 02:08, Espen Martinsen wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >    I know there is a way to define a
> > > >    "scratch" volume-pool, and have the other pool's to
> > > >    get tapes from this one.
> > > >
> > > >    I've defined a pool named "scratch" but it does'nt look
> > > >    like it works (NB 4.5)
> > > >
> > > >    What is the correct way to define this pool.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yours
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Espen Martinsen                       Email : esm AT mnemonic DOT no
> > > > Mnemonic AS, Waldemar Thranesgt. 77   Phone : +47 2299 9710/00
> > > >                                       Mobil : +47 915 88 485
> > > > N-0175 Oslo, NORWAY                   Fax   : +47 2299 9701
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > (PADI AOW 87191)                    http://www.mnemonic.no/
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<font size=-1>Scott,</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>That's a perfect explanation. Usually Netbackup master
server is a volume database host, but there are can be exceptions and in
my second email I have corrected myself.</font><font size=-1></font>
<p><font size=-1>Thank you,</font>
<br><font size=-1>Alex</font>
<p>scott.kendall AT abbott DOT com wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>&nbsp;
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>This statement is more correct than
the statement from someone earlier saying that it has to be on the master.&nbsp;
It is usually just assumed, and is the recommended best practice, to have
only one Volume Database Host within a NetBackup domain and that it is
also the master server for that domain (not to be confused with DNS domains
or NT Domains).</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>It needs to be on EACH master/media
server THAT IS A VOLUME DATABASE HOST in order to be used as a Scratch
Pool for media managed by that Volume Database Host.</font></font>
<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sorry Curtis, but I think Backup Central
needs to update their FAQ on this one!</font></font>
<p><font size=-1><font face="Arial">... and the FAQ also states 
"</font><tt>Netbackup
will setup a Netbackup pool that is used for database (indexes) backups.
It will also setup a None pool which is available to any user or application
for backups."</tt></font>
<p><tt><font size=-1>The NetBackup pool is the default for all new 
classes/policies.&nbsp;
It is NOT just used for database backups.&nbsp; Also, the None pool is
not available to any user or application for backups as the FAQ states.&nbsp;
Try choosing this in your policy.&nbsp; It doesn't show up as an option,
at least it doesn't in the 4.5 environments I'm looking at now... and I
don't remember seeing it show up as an option for a Class in 3.4 or 3.2
either.</font></tt>
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<p><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>- Scott</font></font>
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<td><b><font face="sans-serif"><font size=-2>Alexander Lenderman 
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<br><font face="sans-serif"><font size=-2>Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font></font>
<p><font face="sans-serif"><font size=-2>01/06/2003 11:26 PM</font></font>
<br><font face="sans-serif"><font size=-2>Please respond to 
Alexander.Lenderman</font></font></td>

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To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "Steven L. Sesar" &lt;ssesar AT 
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cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Espen Martinsen 
&lt;Espen.Martinsen AT mnemonic DOT no>,
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu, esm AT mnemonic DOT no</font></font>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>It doesn't hurt to have it
in media servers vm.conf, but it *does* works fine without it.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>I have checked it many 
times.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>The&nbsp; SCRATCH pool must
be defined on a volume database host.</font></font>
<br>&nbsp;
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>"Steven L. Sesar" 
wrote:</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>No, that's not true! SCRATCH_POOL
*does* need to be defined in the vm.conf</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>file on each media server
in the backup domain.</font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>See:</font></font>
<p><u><font face="Times New Roman"><font color="#0000FF"><font size=+0><a 
href="http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/109.html";>http://www.backupcentral.com/foms/netbackup-serve/cache/109.html</a></font></font></font></u>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>..and check out your Media
Manager Guide.</font></font>
<p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>On Monday 06 January 2003
10:58, Alexander Lenderman wrote:</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> The Scratch pool needs
to be defined only in a master server vm.conf.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> It is also necessary to
define a default barcode rule for the scratch</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> pool, so all new tapes
will be automatically added to the scratch pool</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> rather than to the NetBackup
pool.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> Thanks,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> Alex</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> "Steven L. Sesar" 
wrote:</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > You need to define the
scratch pool on each of your media servers.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > Add the following to
your vm.conf file:</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > SCRATCH_POOL = 
scratch</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > ....assuming that the
name of your scratch pool is "scratch".</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > --Steve</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > On Monday 06 January
2003 02:08, Espen Martinsen wrote:</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > Hi,</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
I know there is a way to define a</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
"scratch" volume-pool, and have the other pool's to</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
get tapes from this one.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
I've defined a pool named "scratch" but it does'nt look</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
like it works (NB 4.5)</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > >&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
What is the correct way to define this pool.</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > ></font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > Yours</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > 
--------------------------------------------------------------</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > Espen 
Martinsen&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Email : esm AT mnemonic DOT no</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > Mnemonic AS, Waldemar
Thranesgt. 77&nbsp;&nbsp; Phone : +47 2299 9710/00</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > 
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Mobil : +47 915 88 485</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > N-0175 Oslo, 
NORWAY&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Fax&nbsp;&nbsp; : +47 2299 9701</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > 
--------------------------------------------------------------</font></font>
<br><font face="Times New Roman"><font size=+0>> > > (PADI AOW 
87191)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;

<u><font color="#0000FF"><a 
href="http://www.mnemonic.no/";>http://www.mnemonic.no/</a></font></u></font></font>
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