[Veritas-bu] NDMP backup delays
2002-09-09 11:26:27
There are two things going on here. One is the catalog post-
processing that NetBackup NDMP must do to convert the inode-based
information provided by the NetApp into the native path-based
catalog. This overhead depends on the number of objects in
the backup. Starting with NetBackup 4.5 there is no longer any
catalog post-processing so this overhead is eliminated.
Secondly, dump walks the filesystem before it starts sending
backup data. A quick google search comes up with this
short overview of dump:
http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/osdi99/full_papers/hutchi
nson/hutchinson_html/node6.html
Jeff Kennedy wrote:
>I believe the problem is *before* the dump even begins. I have seen
>this problem on volumes that have a tremendous number of small files or
>are terribly fragmented. But I've never seen the problem it just start
>out of the blue, it's usually a gradual process that gets worse with
>time.
>
>~JK
>
>John D Stephens wrote:
>>
>> Moshe -
>> I have seen huge delays between volumes as well. What is going
>> on is this. After NBU starts the NDMP backup, it steps out
>> of the way and idle until the filer signals NBU that the dump
>> has completed. Then the filer sends all the meta data to NBU
>> and NBU then catalogs that data. Depending on the size of your
>> backup and the amount of files, it takes a little while for NBU
>> to chug through the catalogs. Hopefully, 4.5 is faster at this.
>> Check your iostat -x and look for the activity on your catalogs
>> after the filer finishes sending the NDMP job, but NBU still
>> shows it to be active. The only way around this is to use
>> multiple streams. Be carefull, multiple streaming does use the
>> filer's CPU more than normal.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Moshe Linzer wrote:
>> >
>> > Lately we have started seeing delays between volumes when backing up our
>> > Netapp filer. I have a single AIT-2 tape attached to my F760, and I run
>> > a full backup of the filer, which contains 3 volumes. The performance
>> > on the first volume is as expected, but then there is a delay of
>> > sometimes up to 12 hours before the second volume begins to be backed
>> > up! The same thing happens before the third volume. volume sizes are
>> > between 375-480GB. I think this began after we applied some patches
>> > lately, but the patch descriptions don't seem to have any bearing on
>> > this problem. Had anyone seen this type of behaviour?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Moshe
>> >
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