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[Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO

2001-09-28 11:15:38
Subject: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO
From: morms AT es DOT com (Melinda Orms)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:15:38 -0600
  
It seemed odd to me so I made a point, previously, of clarifying this
with our sales rep.  
He checked and assured me that the SAN Master and Media server licenses
do not include the client license to back themselves up.  It is a
license to allow the server to write to media.  We had to purchase extra
licenses to comply with this licensing structure.  

So the word I got was that in a SAN situation, you need to purchase a
client license for every machine that will be backed up, regardless of
what 'server package' is installed.

Each of our SAN media servers here is backing up several other clients
and we paid just slightly less for these licenses than we did for our
SAN Master license.

Regards,
Melinda Orms


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregg Yurchak [mailto:gyurchak AT veritas DOT com]
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 6:59 AM
To: 'Trotman, Kevin'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; 'Charlie .'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO


I work in consulting, not in sales, but I was under the impression a SAN
Media Server license was for a server to back itself up, and not any
other
clients, and was therefore sold at a reduced price from a regular media
server.  You just throw your huge Oracle database server onto the SAN
(like
it wouldn't be there all ready) and it can back itself up instead of
going
across the network.

You still need SSO and the multi-hosted drive option for each media
server,
SAN or otherwise.

Thanks,
Gregg Yurchak
VERITAS Professional Services
Biloxi, MS
Cell:    228.324.6939
Office: 228.822.9810


-----Original Message-----
From: Trotman, Kevin [mailto:Kevin_Trotman AT afcc DOT com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 3:31 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu; 'Charlie .'
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO

1.

3.2 and below would be SSO.

3.4 and above would be San Media License. It replaces the SSO
functionality.
It provides locking for multiple machine writes to a single tape drive
(IE:
multi-hosted drive support). You don't get multi-hosted drives with a
regular Media License.

2.

It's totally different. Conceptually at least. In a SAN, you're
configuring
how many drives a machine can use at one time, not how many drives are
actually cabled to the machine (because all would be visible by the
machine). Its a way of controlling load balancing in software. If you
have
two machines & ten drives, you can configure them as: 5/5 or 7/3 or 9/1.
It
all depends on how much each machine is backing up.

3.

No, I think SSO is still bantered around some, but a SAN Media license
is
the same thing for 3.4 & above.


4.

Regular media server = all of them.
San media server = all of them.

Course you'd actually be able to do backups to them correctly with a SAN
Media server license. ;)  You don't need SSO for this config if you're
getting 3.4 or 4.5.

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie . [mailto:maver3640 AT hotmail DOT com]
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:32 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] SAN media vs "regular" media & SSO


Hello,

1. Could someone please explain the difference between a SAN media
license 
and a "regular" media license. My understanding is that a media server,
by 
default, can run backups (of itself or other clients) using a SCSI or FC

interface to the tape drive. So what does a SAN media server license
give 
me? Is it just saying it is "SAN compatible"?

2. If it is different, what do I have to do different in configuring a
SAN 
media server as opposed to a regular media server?

3. SSO gives me the option to use all any of my drives in my SAN with
any of

my media servers - right? Would I still need an SSO license with a SAN
media

server license?

4. If I don't use SSO, how many drives would I be able to see and
use from my media servers?

FYI - I am working with a SAN environment, with 2 libraries with 26
drives 
total, HP master server, HP and NT clients. Most of the HP and NT
clients 
would be "SAN" media server.

Thanks
Charlie


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