Ok ... digging through the documentation a little more, I discovered that
the rman scripts
can back-up to schedules of type "Backup Policy". So, now for each of my
schedules I have
also a policy. For instance, ColdFull and ColdFull-P. Then my rman call in
the backup script looks like:

su - oracle -c "
. setOraProfile -s=RFIN;
rman target / nocatalog <<!
shutdown immediate;
startup mount;
run {
   allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
   send 'NB_ORA_CLASS=RFIN, NB_ORA_SCHED=ColdFull-P';
   backup
      incremental level 0 cumulative
      format 'RFIN_c0_%s_%p_%t'
   database;
   sql 'ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG CURRENT';
   backup archivelog all delete input;
   backup current controlfile;
}
alter database open;
!
"

and all works as I desire.

-Charles Ballowe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sixbury, Dan [mailto:sixbury AT celeritas DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:04 PM
> To: 'Ballowe, Charles'
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup question
> 
> 
> Your points about having one class and multiple schedules 
> with different
> retention periods is valid, however in the case of Oracle / 
> Netbackup it
> doesn't appear to be possible.  (Someone feel free to tell me 
> otherwise.) I
> do remember the first time I implemented an rman with 
> Netbackup solution,
> that I wasn't sure what the heck this "default-policy" job 
> was that always
> ran.  I would have to check my notes on why this is used, but 
> I believe it
> had something to do with the way Netbackup scheduled rman jobs.
> 
> Anyway the different schedules / retentions periods would 
> work for an OS
> backup, but as far as I know you will need to implement the different
> classes for your Oracle backups if you want different 
> retention periods for
> each of the schedules.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ballowe, Charles [mailto:CBallowe AT usg DOT com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:52 PM
> To: 'Sixbury, Dan'; Ballowe, Charles
> Cc: EBU (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup question
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sixbury, Dan [mailto:sixbury AT celeritas DOT com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:27 PM
> > To: 'Ballowe, Charles'
> > Cc: EBU (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup question
> > 
> > 
> > When you initiate the oracle backups, are they being scheduled from
> > Netbackup, or are you using cron on the server to run the 
> > local rman scripts
> > which use the class and schedules that you mention?  
> 
> Netbackup is handling the schedules -- I'm kicking them off as manual
> backups as I test things.
> 
> > So far as seeing default-policy running when you perform the 
> > Oracle rman
> > backups, you always see the default-policy as running when 
> > you initiate a
> > Netbackup for Oracle / RMAN backup.
> 
> Ok -- any reason this is the case, or is it one of those 
> things that "just
> is"?
> 
> > I wasn't sure about the retention periods, but if you are 
> > needing different
> > retention periods for your backups you may want to set up 3 
> > classes assuming
> > that you want different retention periods for all three schedules. 
> 
> Isn't that what the retention period in the schedule is supposed to
> accomplish? It just seems cleanest to kick off the backups 
> from one class
> (per database instance). If a class for each retention period 
> is what needs
> to be done, then I can do that, but it just feels like a work-around.
> 
> -Charles Ballowe
>  
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ballowe, Charles [mailto:CBallowe AT usg DOT com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:03 PM
> > To: 'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu'
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Oracle Backup question
> > 
> > 
> > I'd like to have a class for oracle backups with 3 schedules 
> > in the class. A
> > monthly 
> > (every 4 weeks) cold full, a weekly hot full, and a nightly 
> > hot cumulative
> > incremental. I have a script that calls the appropriate rman 
> > information
> > based on the NB_ORA_PC_SCHED 
> > variable in its environment when it's called. This works and 
> > performs the
> > appropriate type of backup, but the jobs that actually write 
> > to tape show up
> > as being in the default-policy. This, of course, doesn't work 
> > out because
> > the retention periods that go with the schedules aren't gonna take.
> > 
> > If I put the 'send' command into the rman script, I end up 
> > with an error 240
> > "No schedules of the correct type exist in this class".
> > 
> > Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
> > 
> > -Charles Ballowe
> > 
> > Platform:
> >     NBU 3.4 DataCenter
> >     Tru64 5.1
> >     SSO
> >     Oracle 8.1.7
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