I have mine set up as "one target, one machine" and caveat that for NDS. We 
have an NDS machine that I backup differently than other Novell systems. I 
built two targets on that system (one for NDS and one for the file system). 
Those that remain have a single target to include all the volumes that may 
reside on that box. most have a single SYS volume but some have a VOL1 and a 
PROD volume in addition to SYS. I set up a single target that does them all. In 
some cases I have had users come and ask me to backup specific 
files/directories separately. To accommodate this I built another class that 
executes a backup of the server in question and on that server I've built a 
separate TARGET that includes only the files/directories I'm interested in. 
Kinda of klugy but it serves my purpose and it works.

Regards,
Dennis

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>>> Bob Bakh <bbakh AT veritas DOT com> 04/05/01 06:18PM >>>
You can do single file backups from the client, so you can set up a user
initiated backup schedule for the client and run single file backups that
way, or set up an include list for a particular schedule and run it
automatically ( I think ) 

As for your other problem, if you set up the Novell job to backup all the
volumes under one target this could happen.  I'm a big fan of one target one
volume, and one target for NDS and one target for NetWare specific
information.  Then back them up in one file list.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: RYAN ANDERSON [mailto:RYAN_ANDERSON AT udlp DOT com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 10:05 AM
To: Jeff Kennedy
Cc: Veritas-bu List
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Novell backups - again


Your VAR (just like everyone else ;-) doesn't use the NetWare NetBackup
client, so they don't know. Look at page 36 in the 3.2 NetBackup Target
Version Users Guide, and you'll see how to do this. NetWare is a little
different since most all configurations are done on the client itself
because of the bastard nature of NetWare. I haven't done this, but I've
excluded backing certain types of file (*.cca for instance) using the
selection list. In excluding the type of file I didn't want backed up,
the file names would show up in xbp as being there--I just couldn't
restore it. You may get the same problem in including/excluding
directories.

Give this a try yourself. Your VAR doesn't know much and my experience
is that Veritas doesn't know a whole lot about the NetWare client either
(no offense). Hell, I don't care about the client either, but I have to
backup NetWare, so....


Regards,

RCA


> Wondering if anyone else is running into this.  My VAR is telling me
> that I can't do individual directory/file backups on a targeted Novell
> client.  Anyone know for sure if this is true?
> 
> I was looking through the doc's today (just got them last night...) and
> it looks like the selection list will allow me to set individual paths
> to be backed up or excluded.  The way I understood it was that if I put
> something in the exclude list it will backup the entire server minus
> that path, if I put something in the include list it will only backup
> that path (plus any other paths listed).
> 
> Can anyone confirm this?  Or maybe I'm totally wrong and I can't do
> granular backups of Novell clients.  Of course, that would be absurd....
> 
> Thanks.
> --
> =====================
> Jeff Kennedy
> Unix Administrator
> AMCC
> jlkennedy AT amcc DOT com 
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