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Re: [Networker] A bit OT: VSS and Win2008 R2 and NW 7.6.2

2011-08-16 14:42:14
Subject: Re: [Networker] A bit OT: VSS and Win2008 R2 and NW 7.6.2
From: Michael Leone <Michael.Leone AT PHA.PHILA DOT GOV>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:40:34 -0400
So I suggested to EMC that "Or enumerating the folders of E: explicitly, 
rather than 
using saveset ALL?". They agreed, since it seems that VSS is using the 
same drive as AFTD is, and so there's not enough room for the snapshot 
*and* the FULL save to AFTD device.
(makes me wonder how this process can work on clients with no large AFTD 
drive to write snapshots to ...)

Anyway, I set up one job with a saveset ALL, but a directive to skip 
certain named folders on the main storage drive
And an hour later, I will run a job that backs up *only* those named 
folders that were skipped earlier in the night.
The combination of the 2 jobs should provide me with a backup of 
everything on the server.

That should (hopefully) cut down on snapshot size, and I won't run out of 
disk space on the AFTD disk, and the backup (including DISASTER_RECOVERY: 
saveset) should complete.

I hope. :-)


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Michael Leone
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EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU> wrote on 
08/12/2011 08:58:31 AM:

> From: Michael Leone <Michael.Leone AT PHA.PHILA DOT GOV>
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Date: 08/12/2011 08:59 AM
> Subject: [Networker] A bit OT: VSS and Win2008 R2 and NW 7.6.2
> Sent by: EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
> 
> I've started getting errors from VSS on a Win2008 R2 server that is a NW 

> 7.6.2 storage node. And the last couple nights, it has been partially 
> failing (partially meaning that some files weren't backed up, but most 
> were).
> 
> (I've never changed any settings for VSS, as Networker handles all that)
> 
> First thing I see, in SYSTEM log of the client:
> (E: is the main data drive, and X: is the AFTD disk that Networker 
writes 
> to)
> 
> ----------------------
> Event 33, source: volsnap:
> The oldest shadow copy of volume E: was deleted to keep disk space usage
> for shadow copies of volume E: below the user defined limit.
> 
> Event 24, source: volsnap:
> There was insufficient disk space on volume X: to grow the shadow copy
> storage for shadow copies of E:.  As a result of this failure all shadow
> copies of volume E: are at risk of being deleted.
> 
> Event 35, source volsnap:
> The shadow copies of volume E: were aborted because the shadow copy
> storage failed to grow.
> --------------------
> 
> And then Networker reports that some files weren't backed up.
> 
> E: Used size = 665G
> X: Free space = 609G (this drive keeps 2 days worth of backups)
> 
> So I guess what I need to do is for VSS to not use so much space for 
it's 
> snapshots, so it doesn't run out of room. I don't fully understand how 
VSS 
> figures into this (yes, I've read the VSS Guide from EMC, no I still 
don't 
> understand it). It sounds like what's happening is that the snapshot 
> doesn't have enough room to grow to the size it wants to be. So do I 
need 
> to tell VSS to make the snapshots smaller, so it won't need such a big 
> block of space at one time for each snapshot?
> 
> You can't turn off VSS in Win 2008 R2 backups in Networker, I'm told, so 

> that unfortunately is not an option.
> 
> Or should I be changing the saveset definitions, to backup C: and E: as 
> separate jobs? Or enumerating the folders of E: explicitly, rather than 
> using saveset ALL?
> 
> I'm confused and lost. Anybody have a guide post to get me back on 
track?
> 
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