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Re: [Networker] NetWorker 7.6 SP2 restoring while cloning

2011-05-10 14:01:14
Subject: Re: [Networker] NetWorker 7.6 SP2 restoring while cloning
From: Yaron Zabary <yaron AT ARISTO.TAU.AC DOT IL>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 21:00:34 +0300
Yup, seen this as well. Before I fixed my mminfo to query the RO device, I started to notice that backups that were running at that time were blocked and waiting for the stage to finish.

Anyhow, this is a kludge and there is no excuse for no true concurrent access to AFTD after so many years. This is also an absurd because if you create an nsrmmd for each read or write session, you will be able to better utilize the new quad cores CPUs.

On 05/10/2011 05:28 PM, Thierry Faidherbe wrote:
Earlier, by change, I found "a way" to recover during
clone/stage on an AFD dev at same time :

The trick is not to restore using client file index
(recoveries browsing files) but recovering using
SSID/Cloneid :

Query the SSID/CloneID of the SS you need to recover.
If the SSID copy has not be staged and purged yet
(in other word, still on AFD), you will get at least
2 different cloneid, one for each copy of the ssid
(one on the write enabled AFD volume,
  one for the read-only AFD volume).

eg :

SSID      CLONE ID    Name  Volume
12345678  123456789   c:\   Test
12345678  123456790   c:\   Test.RO

When AFD read-only part is reading (for recover,clone or stage, doesn't
matter),
if you recover using SSID/Cloneid and use Cloneid of the SSID copy from
the Write-enabled volume like
"recover -S 12345678/123456789 [-d<alternate_loc>] path_to_recover"
it will read from write-enabled AFD device while the
read-only one is reading.

I discovered it by chance, when scripting new staging batch
when I did forget to specify ".RO" in<volume>.RO name in
piped mminfo for staging cmd during operators did recover using GUI.

Not using that trick very often but it worked each time in
case of emergency recover.

HTH

Th


Kind regards - Bien cordialement - Vriendelijke groeten,

Thierry FAIDHERBE
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Objet : Re: [Networker] NetWorker 7.6 SP2 restoring while cloning

On 05/06/2011 11:19 PM, STANLEY R. HORWITZ wrote:
I know in earlier NetWorker versions, doing a restore from an advanced
file type device while it is sending data to another device for cloning
wasn't possible. I am testing 7.6 SP2 RA with a new Data Domain and it
seems that same limitation is present. Does anyone know a way around that
where files can be recovered from a DD Boost device while it is being
cloned?

   Come on Stan, let's not be naive about that. EMC had years to fix this
issue and the reason they didn't was that a too good AFTD (maybe even
with dedup, like PureDisk) will compete with their VTLs. Now that they
own Data Domain (and BRS is actually DD), they need to fix it, but I am
pretty sure that you will not see any improvements for AFTD without DD
(that is why DD boost is here).


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