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Re: [Networker] long term retention of data and old hardware

2011-02-22 05:41:15
Subject: Re: [Networker] long term retention of data and old hardware
From: "STANLEY R. HORWITZ" <stan AT TEMPLE DOT EDU>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 05:39:14 -0500
If I am not mistaken, MIT, Lockheed Martin and the Library of Congress are 
working on this issue.

On Feb 22, 2011, at 3:33, "Eric Fabulus" <efabulus AT HOTMAIL DOT COM> wrote:

> But of course, in 30 years, there will be no way to interface the old 
> hardware capable of running the old tapes with the old datas to the new 
> hardware (remember the coax network ? do you still have a compatible network 
> card and all the cables somewhere in your office ? Don't even talking of the 
> move from ide to sata for the hard disks).
> 
> The availabality of data thru time is beginning a great challenge that nobody 
> try to solve actually.
> 
> The archeologists today have an easy way at work, they have paper and so on. 
> What will do an archeologist in 200 years with a cd-rom ? What an history we 
> will leave for our children if all that got through to year 2500 is the 
> copies of copies of movies and tv shows  ? lol
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 10:23:09 +0200
>> From: yaron AT ARISTO.TAU.AC DOT IL
>> Subject: Re: [Networker] long term retention of data and old hardware
>> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
>> 
>> These days I am trying to push an HSM solution based on Sun/Oracle 
>> SAM-FS/QFS technology (obviously, I intend to have at least two copies 
>> of the data in two separate locations). Such a solution will let us have 
>> a long term archive of our dormant data. My intention is to start with 
>> LTO4/5, but I am sure that when LTO7 will come, I will need to migrate 
>> the data to LTO7. Regardless of being able to deliver the files back, I 
>> still wonder what our ERP DBA will do ten years from now with backups of 
>> Oracle 10g when the database will be Oracle 26m and the table format 
>> will be completely different (and I don't even care about how people 
>> will handle Word 95 files when they run Office 2030).
>> 
>> On 02/18/11 21:42, Browning, David wrote:
>>> Just out of curiosity, what is everyone doing in terms of long term
>>> retention of data, and still being able to read old tapes?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For example, we have thousands of old LTO-2 and LTO-3 tapes. We are
>>> looking to upgrade to LTO-5, but then that would mean we can't read our
>>> old LTO-2 tapes, unless we keep at least 1, or more, LTO-3 drives.
>>> Right now, that really isn't a problem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> What happens 5, or 10, years from now, when LTO-3 drives are no longer
>>> available for service?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Our regulatory requirements are to keep some of our data upwards of 30
>>> years, so this question is not going away any time soon.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Dave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> David M. Browning Jr.
>>> 
>>> IT Project Coordinator Enterprise Backups and Help Desk
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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