thanks for all the responses to this question. One final query...
If i have 2 ESX servers running 2 VMs that are a MSCS cluster with SQL server
database. Can i license each ESX server with Virtual Edition Connection License
and i am then covered for all backups on these virtual machines?
I do not need to purchase 2 Cluster Connection Licenses and 1 NMM license?
Thanks.
--- On Wed, 24/3/10, James Pratt <jpratt AT NORWICH DOT EDU> wrote:
From: James Pratt <jpratt AT NORWICH DOT EDU>
Subject: Re: [Networker] client licenses for vmware virtual machines
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wednesday, 24 March, 2010, 0:35
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
>> On Behalf Of MIchael Leone
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>> Subject: Re: [Networker] client licenses for vmware virtual machines
>>
>> Isn't a full VCB image a full backup of the ESX server *and* all the
VMs
>> currently running on it?
>>
>> If so, that's a problem. I don't want to restore an entire VCB image
of
>> one of my ESX hosts, with has 8 VMs, each of which has 50G disk space
>> assigned to it, just to later extract out a file or two in just one
of the
>> VMs.
>>
>> I have a feeling that I'm mis-understanding how that works. Or you're
>> mis-understanding what I'm asking ...
Yes - likely a combination of both... No, you will never backup or
restore a full ESX host - ESX is just a container server of sorts (think
vmotion, HA, DR etc) ... A vcb image is an export image (aka "snapshot")
of a vm sent from your san to a windows vcb proxy server host via the
VCB integration scripts and then backed up by the legato networker
integration module. The exported files themselves are quite similar to
what you would download in a "virtual appliance" on vmware's VMTN , then
run it through vmware converter to restore it back from export files to
a working vm - I have not done any homework on filesystem-level backups
using VCB, so I cannot answer that one in full actually - perhaps
someone else uses the *ALLVMFS* saveset in this manner, or perhaps (like
it was in 7.4.x, "C\" or something along those lines for file-level?
>>
>> What I was asking: if SERV001 is a VM; can I browse through the
backups of
>> SERV001 using the GUI; choose the 2 or 3 files I want; and recover
just
>> those? Exactly as I would do with a physical machine. I don't want
to
>> have to restore a backup of *all* the VMs that were running on that
ESX
>> hosts to somewhere else, and then dig out just those 2 or 3 files out
of
>> the hundreds of gigs worth of stuff I just restored.
If you were using the All saveset, then the answer would be yes. If you
were using one of the VCB saveset commands... well, I cannot tell you
because we only do full images here. :(
>>
>> I have like 80 VMs now, and 90 licenses (plus storage nodes and
cluster
>> clients). If I can use 10 Virtual Client Licenses to back up all 80
of
>> those VMs, that will free up 70 licenses for physical machines. Yes?
Yes - AFAIK, if all of those 80 vm's are defined explicitly as "Virtual
clients" in the client config in networker, this would be the case. As I
mentioned, we use the "All" saveset just as one would on a physical
system on many of these clients, since they may be exchange C:\ volumes
etc etc , which are not good for VCB
>>
>> I can then make sure I leave those licenses for the physical hosts.
We
>> don't like to run SQL as a VM, so I have a number of SQL servers
>> (including clustered servers).
Yes, we don't run it in a vm either, that wouldn't be too smart IMO, so
yes it works out well indeed. I would like a clustered setup as well,
but not being a big windows MSCS fan, do not want the headaches. Drs and
HA still work if vcenter breaks and our admins can figure out what they
need to in that rare occasion.
Hope that clears some stuff up, it's muddy out there I know! :)
Regards,
Jamie
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