Re: [Networker] Avamar

There are benefits to having an integrated solution.

 

We have an extremely large NetWorker implementation, with many many retention 
period requirements over petabytes. The cost is worth it for the reduction in 
complexity and meeting our obligations.


Siobhán


 
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU; siobhanellis AT HOTMAIL DOT COM
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
> From: anacreo AT gmail DOT com
> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:12:52 +0000
> 
> Right but in an environment with 700 clients and 200 sharepoints it can be a 
> lot cheaper to forego Networker client costs by using a non-integrated Avamar.
> 
> Alec
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Siobhan Ellis <siobhanellis AT HOTMAIL DOT COM>
> 
> Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:07:23 
> To: <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
> 
> 
> Um,
> 
> We paid for a client license in NetWorker and used the NetWorker
> integration. This means you just pay for capacity on Avamar. No problem
> there.
> 
> Siobhan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] 
> On
> Behalf Of Francis Swasey
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2009 12:28 AM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
> 
> Hey Joel,
> 
> That's the same plan the EMC sales force told me about -- but that means you
> now have paid for 
> the AVAMAR solution and also have to pay for a NetWorker client license for
> each one of your 
> guests. Hence I'm in agreement with Alec. As I need to expand the licenses
> to cover my 
> guests, I'm going to be switching to the Virtual Server license model --
> because I have to run 
> the NetWorker client on each guest anyway with the current EMC dedupe
> product (so I can get a 
> off-site clone copy on tape per requirements).
> 
> Frank
> 
> On 7/1/09 10:13 AM, Joel Fisher wrote:
> > Hey Siobhan,
> > 
> > My thinking for the lack of tape out, is that I would just run one
> > backup a month to regular tape. That fits well with how we do it now.
> > Is that still feasible with avamar?
> > 
> > Thank you for your response.
> > 
> > Joel
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT 
> > EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Siobhan Ellis
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:57 AM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] Avamar
> > 
> > It works
> > It's good for virtual environments
> > It has no tape out facility worth speaking about... so think about your
> > retention periods.
> > 
> > Siobhan Ellis
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT 
> > EDU] On
> > Behalf Of Joel Fisher
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:54 AM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: [Networker] Avamar
> > 
> > Hey Guys,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > We are getting ready to ink the deal on a big VMware environment, but
> > the outstanding issue is still... how do we back it all up.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To protect the VMDKs we are planning on doing snapshots and replication
> > within our storage arrays. But the problem is that we have a
> > requirement to provide file level restore capability, and we don't want
> > to spend hours of admin time mounting VMDK snapshots and restoring
> > individual files. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Conceptually, avamar seems like the "perfect" backup solution for a
> > VMware environment. Global dedup, minimize server resources used for
> > the backup, etc... But I've never used it, so can someone who has had
> > some hands on experience give me some insight on whether it really
> > works, and what the draw backs are. How well does it tie into
> > networker. We are currently 7.4.4(with lots of patches)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > As far as scale goes... we will probably top out at 600-700 guests
> > factoring in some creep.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > 
> > Joel
> > 
> > 
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