Hello,
I believe 7.5 addresses this , please check the release notes, i believe
you can create each client the way you do normally in Networker then
designate the proxy server and so the indexes will be separate also, this
would be a huge improvement in which the proxy server functionality
handles recovery of VM backups.
7.51 will take it little further by having single step recovery for VM (
as in release notes)
Thanks
Chester Martin <cmartin AT SPP DOT ORG>
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ALLVMFS does a file level backup <-----doesn't backup system
state...found that out the hard way... :)
*FULL* does a image level backup.
When you define a save set as VM:guest:*FULL* in the save set of the
proxy server, when you go to restore your restorable save sets will be
under the proxy server's name. When you pull up the proxy's save set
listing you need to know the date and time that the actual save set was
backed up. If you put in the exact date and time the os for the vm
guest will show up, but networker doesn't actually tell you what host
you're looking at. Its save sets will still be stored under the proxy
server's name. When I first experienced it I was thrown for a HUGE
loop. I still don't like that it shows up like that.. Or at least this
was how it was in 7.4.1 and 7.4.2. I trashed backing up that way
because of this...
When you create an actual client and put *FULL* in its save set field
when you go to recover you can browse save sets under the actual client
name.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Chaney (CF) [mailto:john AT chaneyfamily DOT biz]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:10 AM
To: Chester Martin; 'EMC NetWorker discussion'
Subject: RE: [Networker] VCB and Networker 7.4.x
Chester,
Thanks for the info.
So far the only way I can backup in the environment I'm at is by using
VM:Guest:*FULL* as the saveset on the proxy host, no matter what version
of
Networker I put on the proxy host or what version of Networker I'm
running
on the Networker server (Windows or AIX).
Another item I ran across this morning is the virus scanner on the proxy
host. I looked at the log and I see a lot of messages pertaining to
vcbmounter. Not sure if this is the issue but I'm going to see if I can
disable the virus scanner for a test.
I just don't understand what the VM:guest:*FULL* is working but defining
the
guest as a client with *FULL* is not. Everything works the same up to
the
point of Networker backing up the copied image.
I really do appreciate the responses from all of you.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Chester Martin [mailto:cmartin AT SPP DOT ORG]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 9:51 AM
To: EMC NetWorker discussion; John Chaney (CF)
Subject: RE: [Networker] VCB and Networker 7.4.x
We're running 7.4.4 with vcb 1.5, we've done image(windows/linux) and OS
level (windows). We're using the proxy server as a storage node. It's
been running pretty solid. We've upgraded from 7.4.1 to 7.4.2 to 7.4.3
to 7.4.4.
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Behalf Of John Chaney (CF)
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [Networker] VCB and Networker 7.4.x
The Proxy is windows 2003 and I'm using the latest VCB module 1.5.
I have logging in the config.js set to 6 but cannot find a log file
anywhere
other than what is displayed on the screen during the snapshot and copy
of
the images.
I have run save.exe with -D6 to capture as much info as I can using
Networker but nothing is being sent to any logs.
It just seems that the symptom happens when I use the Proxy as a Storage
Node. I'm going to back down the Networker on the proxy to 7.4.2 and
see
what I get. Has anyone testing 7.4.4 with VCB yet?
Thanks,
John
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Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 8:25 AM
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Subject: Re: VCB and Networker 7.4.x
Hello,
VCB backups rely on configures (module from vmware, installed on proxy
server) and vcenter integration as well as ability of proxy ( SN )
server to
see all VM Data store that you backup, has this been looked at ? which
version of integration module are you using as well as vmware version ?
Proxy server has to be Windows 2003 & preferably, drive automounting on
windows should be turned off.
There a few log files in the SN servers install directory that may
explain
why the images are being deleted before backup, check your config.js
options.
HTH
John Chaney <john AT CHANEYFAMILY DOT BIZ>
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VCB and Networker 7.4.x
Hey everyone, I would like to know what your experiences have been with
VCB and Networker 7.4.x.
I did my first VCB implentation about 18 months ago at a customer site
with
Networker 7.4. Off the top of my head I can't rememeber the VCB version
but after much trial and error I was able to get it to work by using the
Proxy Host (storage node) and defining the savesets as
VM:guestname:backup
type in the saveset field, plus defining save_vcb.bat in the backup
command
field. Of course, we had the normal issues that made EMC change their
method of backing up VM's in 7.4.1 but at least it backed up.
Later I installed VCB with Networker 7.4.1 at some other sites and had
to
figure out the new method of creating a client for each Guest and using
the
VCB option on the client definition. This was better although the
customer
was upset because now it required a client license. In any case it
backed
up.
Recently I have been contracted to implement VCB with Networker again.
The
Networker server is 7.4.2 on AIX and we have 7.4.4 on the Proxy Host.
For
some reason when we define the Guest as a Networker client and set all
of
the parameters the backup part fails. It will create the snapshot, copy
the vmdk's to the proxy host, but as soon as the copy finishes, the copy
directory gets deleted and then the snapshot gets cleaned up.
If I define the guest the old way (as a saveset on the proxy host) then
it
backs up.
My first guess was the Networker 7.4.2 vs. 7.4.4 compatibility issue.
We
had a DR Networker server running 7.4.4 so I tried testing it there and
got
the same results.
My second guess was that the Networker server was running AIX. Of the
17
years I've been running Networker, I only know two company's running it
as
a server on AIX. So I created a Networker 7.4.4 server on a Windows
system. Got the same results.
What is strange is I can install Networker server on the Proxy host and
everything works as expected. All methods of VCB backups work.
I have other toughts on what the issue may be (such as they run Netware
Directory Services for authentication) that may be the culprit, but I
wanted to run it by you guys to see if you've experienced anything like
this.
Just so you know, we are just going to backup the image level. They
also
backup at the file level using Networker client. We will just backup
the
images one a week or month. Should a system crash or we need to do a
DR,
we will restore the image and then just do a file level restore to bring
the system up to date.
Thanks in advance for any hepful responses.
Sincerely,
John Chaney
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