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Re: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker

2008-12-19 10:18:37
Subject: Re: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker
From: Peter Buschman <plblists AT IOTK DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:13:38 +0100
At 15:35 19.12.2008, you wrote:
I'm surprised such an innocent looking question generated such a heated discussion. I seems clear there's a lot of grief out there that in the past NetWorker has not received the R&D investment it deserves. Interesting as it was, not much of it goes to answer the original question. ... is there a similar but less costly product like NetWorker out there. To sum up the more relevant responses it seems to me the following should be taken into account:

Investigate the likes of NetBackup, CommVault, HP DataProtector, IBM Tivoli Storage Manager, as well as having a closer look at Open Source Software like Amanda/Zmanda (although I personally feel that this product falls well short of a comprehensive OS client & application support list).

Just to round things out before someone shuts this thread down for not being enough about NetWorker.. ;-)

If an open-source NetWorker substitute is being sought, Bacula (www.bacula.org) is a lot closer to NetWorker in architecture than Amanda since it supports such features as media pools, disk volumes, disk staging, etc., There's the usual trade-offs vs. commercial software but, on the whole, the Bacula project seems to be making great strides (a Windows client that supports VSS is available and a Microsoft Exchange plugin was recently announced which seems to be a first for open-source backup). For people looking to get off the enterprise backup license treadmill, there are certainly alternatives out there. Curtis Preston's book covers several including Amanda (www.amanda.org), Bacula (www.bacula.org), and BackupPC (backuppc.sourceforge.net).

Best regards,

Peter Buschman

      - what platform you wish to run the server on
      - what backup hardware you wish to use
      - what OSes are going to be backed up
      - what applications are going to be backed up
- The level of customization available via scripting & the use of cli toolsets
        - Ease of Backup Server Recovery
        - Purchase cost of product & various backup licenses
        - Cost of ongoing vendor support
- Cost of maintaining long-term networker archives and/or migrating archives to new backup product tape format - Skill/experience of local sys admin & cost/time to become familiar with new backup product


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-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf Of Oscar Olsson
Sent: 19 December 2008 12:18
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] Other back-up products besides NetWorker

On 2008-12-18 19:58, Joe N. Wallace revealed:

JNW> One quiestion I think is relevant here:
JNW>
JNW> Why choose EMC Networker?
JNW>
JNW> Where is Networker stronger thant the competetors mentioned (Netbackup,
JNW> Commvault, Dataprotector, TSM)

The command-line tools and the ability to script stuff. Its probably a
good choice for small environments where you have a sysadmin who uses bc
instad of excel and doesn't mind compiling his own kernel.

JNW> Where are the weak sides of Networker?

Pretty much everything else.

//Oscar

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