We are running Oracle RMAN back ups to a DD, adv_type, using Networker
and replicating the DD to our DR site.  It works great and with the
adv_type you don't need to worry about zoning tape drives.  Just make
sure you have the bandwidth to run the backups over that interface.

On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 14:49 -0400, Coty, Edward wrote:
> I do not know if that would be the answer. Can you dedup an Oracle hot backup 
> using DD? Is anyone using DD for dedup of the DB running in local containers. 
> Unfortunately someone made the decision to go down this road and I need a 
> real world solution. I do not have time or the resources to eval and test 
> different solutions.
> 
> Thanks for you input.
> 
> 
> 
> EDWARD COTY
> 
> LEAD STORAGE ENGINEER, LCNA, NACP
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> Hello,
> Would DataDomain VTL apply to your issue ? It can do dedupe and replication.
> Thanks
> 
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> 
> All,
> 
> We seem to be on the cutting edge and no vendor seems to have the right 
> answer. I am wondering if anyone has been down this road and has anything 
> that might be helpful.
> 
> Environment
> 
> Solaris 10 containers running Oracle, UDB, and SYBASE databases.
> 
> Our first option would be to use frame based replication. EMC replication 
> manager is not supported in containers and HDS has no frame based replication 
> tool.
> 
> We are now looking at using the modules to run hot backups to 
> physical/virtual tape. We are working with the vendor to see if we can 
> present FC tape devices to the local zones.
> 
> We could continue down the road of DB dumps but we are using up too much 
> storage to accomplish this. We have thought about clustering the DB dump file 
> systems to a dedicated storage node and having the DB dump file systems 
> backed up that way but again we are trying to minimize our SAN consumption.
> 
> Has anyone in Happy Backup land been presented with these challenges and 
> implemented anything that works remotely well.
> 
> We are talking about over 100 DB instances over 48 physical servers with I am 
> sure 100 local containers.
> 
> 
> EDWARD COTY
> 
> LEAD STORAGE ENGINEER, LCNA, NACP
> 
> WORK - 973-533-2098
> 
> CELL - 973-296-0918
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> EDWARD.COTY AT AIG DOT COM
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