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Re: [Networker] "ALL" save set with predefined save sets excluded

2008-10-02 19:20:09
Subject: Re: [Networker] "ALL" save set with predefined save sets excluded
From: "Werth, Dave" <dave.werth AT GARMIN DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:18:02 -0700
I agree, the special predefined savesets for Windows systems are small
and don't take long so I don't worry about them.

Dave Werth
Garmin AT, Inc.
Salem, Oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of Peter Viertel
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 3:31 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] "ALL" save set with predefined save sets
excluded

I have been asked over the years to stop these and expended a lot of
effort trying to get to a safe solution.  

The windows admins say they don't need these backups. But oddly enough
I've seen a fair few restores of them also. They only take a minute or
so to do usually quite small and they're easy to ignore when reporting
failures. 

So I would advise just using All and let them happen. 


----- Original Message -----
From: EMC NetWorker discussion <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU <NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU>
Sent: Fri Oct 03 02:29:23 2008
Subject: Re: [Networker] "ALL" save set with predefined save sets
excluded

Tim,

VSS:*=off causes Networker to backup the old predefined savesets.  So 
rather than "VSS ASR DISK", for example, it will backup "ASR".  

Hopefully there is someway to pull this off-- use the ALL saveset but
skip 
the predefined savesets.

Thanks,
Brian



On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:01:30 -0500, Tim Mooney <Tim.Mooney AT NDSU DOT EDU>
wrote:

>In regard to: Re: [Networker] "ALL" save set with predefined save
sets...:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 01, 2008 at 05:23:55PM -0400, Brian Monroe wrote:
>>> Is there any way to use the "ALL" save set in Networker, but have
the
>>> predefined save sets excluded from backup?
>>
>> Nope.  You can exclude the data in them, but the saveset itself will
be
>> run as a backup.
>
>Since Brian mentions the VSS savesets, I wonder if the VSS:*=off trick 
will
>do what he wants?
>
>>> When the "ALL" save set is specified for a Windows client Networker 
will
>>> attempt to backup predefined savesets: VSS ASR Disk, VSS System 
Fileset,
>>> etc...
>>>
>>> We want to set the save set to "ALL", but then have Networker skip 
these
>>> predefined save sets via directive or any other means.  I wrote the
>>> directives below.  Running a savegrp -n seems to indicate that it is
>>> valid.  But running a full save shows that the savesets do in fact
get
>>> backed up.
>>
>> Hmm.  I wonder if directives are valid on these special "non disk"
>> savesets.
>
>That's a good question.  Anyone know?
>
>Tim
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