Sometimes giving someone the root password is like handing them a loaded gun...
If they don't have the proper technical skills to use it effectively, it can be
very dangerous in the wrong hands... Maybe EMC is ultimately protecting them
from themselves.. If they're knowledgeable enough to give themselves root
access, they don't need EMC to provide it... If they're not, EMC is better off
not providing it.. EMC could setup 'sudo' to allow them to only do what they
need to, preventing them from shooting themselves in the foot.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion
> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf Of Will Aymond
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:41 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
>
> If it's a UNIX based server, just give yourself root.. then
> tell them. ;-) -fairly easy to do.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion
> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]On
> Behalf Of James Pratt
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:36 PM
> To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
>
>
> They gave us root for our two DL210 EDL's. I don't see why
> they wouldn't. You bought them, no?
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion
> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Curtis Preston
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:24 PM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
> >
> > So EMC won't give you the root password to the system that
> you bought.
> > That just sounds seriously screwed up to me.
> >
> > I've needed convincing that an embedded storage node is a
> good idea.
> > This isn't helping. In fact, it would be a show stopper for me.
> >
> > Curtis Preston | VP Data Protection
> > GlassHouse Technologies, Inc.
> >
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> > Optimized
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion
> [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU]
> > On Behalf Of brerrabbit
> > Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:06 PM
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > Subject: [Networker] EDL with Embedded Networker Storage Node
> >
> > Bruce Breidall wrote:
> > > There is a web based java gui to manage the CDL/EDL. Should have
> > > been installed with the units. Very good application.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I agree, there is a very good GUI application to manage the
> EDL, but
> > what's missing is a good way to manage the embedded storage
> node. For
> > example, if I want to run an inquire command to get a
> listing of the
> > scsi devices, serial numbers, etc visible to the storage
> node, or if
> > I'm troubleshooting drive behavior with mt, I have to have
> EMC support
> > open an ssh session and have *them* login as root, as they will not
> > hand out that password. I've heard, and we are trying to
> get this set
> > up at our site, that if you ask your TC nicely, he/she can have
> > someone from EMC set up a non-root linux user that has
> permission to run some of the commands like inquire from the
> linux environment/embedded storage node.
> >
> > This is one of the few medium grade annoyances I have with
> the EDL.
> > Another one is that, while there is a command-line interface to
> > generate reports about the EDL utilization, you have to log
> in to the
> > GUI to get them. In a large environment I want to script
> and schedule that and can't because of a design oversite.
> >
> > One other comment about using the embedded storage node and cloning.
> > Assuming that a) your environment uses a shared-storage
> node to backup
> > up to the VTL and b) your budget allows for the licenses, I
> strongly
> > recommend that you zone the shared storage node to also see the
> > physical tape library, i.e. the embedded storage can see
> the VTL and
> > the physical library and so can the shared storage node.
> The reason
> > for this is that, in the event that you have a connectivity problem
> > between the ESN and the PTL, you can clone from the shared storage
> > node. Clones from the shared storage node may not happen
> as quickly,
> > but the added flexibility is well worth the minor cost.
> (Yes, we learned this the hard way!)......
> >
> > HTH
> > -brerrabbit
> >
> >
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