Re: [Networker] upgrade path

That path frightens me, knowing what I know about NW (which is little by
comparison to most of the people on this list). 

The short time I have been involved with NW has been quite disappointing
when you compare how other companies put their products together and do
things (i.e. TSM, commvault, and netb).

Maybe over time the product will start to catch up with real enterprise
products.

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From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On
Behalf Of schweeb
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 1:06 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: [Networker] upgrade path

They're grabbing the deduplication functionality from Avamar and slowly
merging it back with Networker.  They purchased it expressly for the
deduplication features.  Eventually Avamar will be nothing more than a
licensed feature of Networker, is my guess (no separate Avamar client at
all).  Although, they will probably still require you to have Avamar
storage nodes.




Bruce Breidall wrote:
> OK, that makes sense. It is more of a migration path, which I can see
as
> being useful.
> 
> I've asked EMC about this avamar client for NW, and I still have not
> gotten any response to the benefits of getting to 7.4.1 to use this
new
> client, besides maybe what you have provided - a migration path.
> 
> The bigger question is why would EMC invest in 2 completely different
> backup products?
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER < at >
LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU] On
> Behalf Of David Dulek
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:14 PM
> To: NETWORKER < at > LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [Networker] upgrade path
> 
> I just noticed that someone mentioned moving to Avamar and they were
> going to 
> upgrade.  I would upgrade to >7.4.1 so that the plugin into Avamar is
> there 
> during the transition, if they plan to use both for a period of time.
> 
> On Monday 07 April 2008, Bruce Breidall wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Dave.
> > 
> > I think this is a marketing ploy for EMC to try and create some
reason
> > why a customer would actually want to hang on to Networker.
> > 
> > No offense, but I don't see this as a compelling reason to choose
one
> > version over the other, especially if you don't own avamar (which is
> > very expensive).
> > 
> > Do you have a plan to get to avamar? Why would you even need NW if
you
> > have avamar? I am guilty of not knowing the benefits of having this
NW
> > and avamar arrangement.
> > 
> > It looks like 7.3 is a completely different set of code than 7.4,
with
> > 
> a
> 
> > completely different set of patches and problems.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER < at >
LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU]
> > 
> On
> 
> > Behalf Of David Dulek
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:55 AM
> > To: NETWORKER < at > LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] upgrade path
> > 
> > Avamar plugs into Networker in version 7.4.1 and is compatible with
> > 
> the
> 
> > 7.3.3
> > clients.
> > 
> > On Tuesday 01 April 2008, Joe Infantino wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 14:37:15 +0100, Davina Treiber
> > > 
> > > <Davina.Treiber < at > PEEVRO.CO.UK> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Is there a good reason why you are going to 7.3.3 rather than
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 7.4.1?
> 
> > 
> > Do
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > you perceive it to be more stable? If so, what particular bugs
are
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > you
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > expecting to avoid?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > The rest of my environment, 40 Servers, are running 7.3.3 and I
just
> > > 
> > 
> > wanted
> > 
> > 
> > > to get to a common platform before I switch to Avamar within the
> > > 
> > 
> next
> 
> > 
> > year.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> and
> 
> > 
> > type
> > 
> > 
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