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Re: [Networker] AW: [Networker] AW: [Networker] sudden change in tape capacity?

2005-11-02 04:14:28
Subject: Re: [Networker] AW: [Networker] AW: [Networker] sudden change in tape capacity?
From: "Jespers, Bart" <Bart.Jespers AT FUJITSU-SIEMENS DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:05:19 +0100
Which tools did you have to disable besides RSM?

I'm interested in W2000/W2K3/sol8/sol9.

I'm having the same (random) problem in a complex environment: 1 backup server, 
3 storage nodes and 21 dedicated storage nodes who all see 11 LTO2 drives. 

thanks

bart 

-----Original Message-----
From: Legato NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] 
On Behalf Of IT-Administration ST
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:26 PM
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Subject: [Networker] AW: [Networker] AW: [Networker] sudden change in tape 
capacity?

As our networker server is a solaris system I say the W2K3 storage nodes.
But as certain solaris tools which can manage tape devices had also to be 
disabled I would suppose W2K3 networker servers too.


     Freundliche Grüße

   Roman Böhm / Kind regards
 

 >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
 >Von: King, David - Eastman [mailto:dking AT eastman DOT com]
 >Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Oktober 2005 14:05
 >An: Legato NetWorker discussion; IT-Administration ST
 >Betreff: RE: [Networker] AW: [Networker] sudden change in  >tape capacity?
 >
 >Are you saying that the RSM should be disabled on W2K3  >Networker servers 
 >and W2K3 storage nodes? 
 >
 >
 >David L. King
 >
 >
 >-----Original Message-----
 >From: Legato NetWorker discussion
 >[mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf Of  
 >>IT-Administration ST
 >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:00 AM
 >To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
 >Subject: [Networker] AW: [Networker] sudden change in tape capacity?
 >
 >Hello dear fellow-networkers,
 >
 >we faced the problem of premature marking tapes as full both  >with DLT8000 
 >drives and with LTO2 drives for a couple of  >months. As the native capacity 
 >of LTO2 tapes is 200 GB, you  >must know what it looks like when a 200 GB 
 >tape is marked  >full at the capacity of !!! 0 kB  !!!.
 >
 >As the reason was is claimed by leading supporters and  >hardware experts of 
 >the Siemens company that there happen  >undesired tape rewinds. As the block 
 >size at the tape header  >differs from the block size of the data section 
 >after the  >header, when Networker notices that it got a different block  
 >>size it will mark the tape as full and mark the savesets as suspect.
 >
 >Maintaining networker storage nodes we had to disable the  >"Removable 
 >storage Manager" of Win2k resp. Win2k3. The funny  >thing is that how Legato 
 >introduces Networker 7.x it sounds  >like if Networker and the removable 
 >storage manager would be  >"best friends".
 >
 >
 >     Freundliche Grüße / Kind regards
 >
 >   Roman Böhm
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
 > >Von: Legato NetWorker discussion
 > >[mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] Im Auftrag von  >Albert  
 > >>Eddie Contractor AFRPA/ESS  > >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2005 23:08  
 > >> >An: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU  > >Betreff: Re: [Networker] 
 > >sudden change in tape capacity?
 > >
 > >My OS is (Key-up Darkside music here) Windows 2003, but it  >is  >the same 
 > >symptom.
 > >
 > >For the compression issue, there are compression settings  >in  >both the 
 > >Networker Software and hardware setting for the  >tape  >drive, you may 
 > >have compression OFF somewhere.
 > >
 > >
 > >Man I love it when I am right and I get to help  >>someone...Woo-Hoo! /ALE  
 > >>  >Eddie Albert, Network Serf  >>Air Force Real Property Agency  
 > >>Executive Services/Computer  >Systems  >Desk (703) 696 - 5509 - Hip (703) 
 > >517-3855  >>Eddie.Albert AT afrpa.Pentagon.af DOT mil
 > >
 > >
 > >> -----Original Message-----
 > >> From: Matt Temple [mailto:mht AT research.dfci.harvard DOT edu]
 > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:22 PM  >> To: Albert  >Eddie 
 > >> Contractor AFRPA/ESS  >> Cc: Legato NetWorker  >discussion  >> Subject: 
 > >> Re: [Networker] sudden change in tape  >capacity?
 > >>
 > >> Albert Eddie Contractor AFRPA/ESS wrote:
 > >>
 > >> >I don't know about the control arm thing.
 > >> >
 > >> >But the thing we have in common was the premature  >marking  >> tapes 
 > >> >FULL at  >> >80 GB and my library was SCSI  >attached using the same 
 > >> >controller.
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >> Very strange.   I did upgrade the firmware on the drives.   I 
 > >> had forgotten,
 > >> because there were so many other problems -- that's why I  > >upgraded 
 > >> the  >> firmware.
 > >> But now I"m going to have a look at the dates:
 > >>
 > >> October 10 is when I moved the sony file:  
 >sdx900v_0102.x90 There  >> seems to be a relationship.
 > >>
 > >> Density was erratic before that -- as low as 90 and as  >high as 180.
 > >> But now it's never above 80 gb.
 > >> I've NEVER gotten 200 gb on these tapes.   I have an ASC39160 
 > >> controller
 > >> card I'm going to substitute.   I don't normally see any scsi 
 > >> errors to
 > >> account
 > >> for this.   Right now I'm getting much more data on my 
 >AIT-3 tapes!
 > >> Really strange.   What version Linux are you using?   What driver?
 > >>
 > >> >Is it possible you/someone upgraded the firmware on your  >drive  >> 
 > >> >>with(out) your knowledge?
 > >> >
 > >> >Could someone have upgraded the drivers for your drives  >>> with(out) 
 > >> >your  >> >knowledge?
 > >> >
 > >> >While speaking to the elite tech support folks at Legato  > >> they said 
 > >> >that  >> >can happen when Legato Networker  >receives "too many" SCSI 
 > >> >errors.
 > >> >
 > >> >They didn't tell me how many was too many... Sorry.
 > >> >
 > >> >Hope this helps.
 > >> >
 > >> >Semper Fidelis, /ALE
 > >> >
 > >> >Eddie Albert, Network Serf
 > >> >Air Force Real Property Agency
 > >> >Executive Services/Computer Systems  >> >Desk (703) 696
 >- 5509 - Hip (703) 517-3855  >> >Eddie.Albert AT afrpa.Pentagon.af DOT mil
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >> >
 > >> >>-----Original Message-----
 > >> >>From: Legato NetWorker discussion  > >> >>[mailto:NETWORKER AT 
 > >> >>LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU] On Behalf Of  >Matt Temple  >> >>Sent: 
 > >> >>Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:27 AM  >>> >>To: NETWORKER AT 
 > >> >>LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU  >> >>Subject: 
 >[Networker] sudden change in tape capacity?
 > >> >>
 > >> >>All,
 > >> >>
 > >> >>       Something very strange has happened to my storage node...
 > >> >>First of all, the node is a 126-slot Qualstar with 3
 >AIT-4 drives.
 > >> >>For a number of months, this unit has worked well.   
 >It's attached
 > >> >>to an HP server running Fedora core 1.   I know this isn't 
 > >> officially
 > >> >>supported, but has always worked flawlessly on both the  > >server and  
 > >> >>>> >>this storage node.
 > >> >>
 > >> >>          Something suddenly changed.   First, I had some really
 > >> >>weird robot-amr failures, including one instance where  >a tape was  >> 
 > >> >>>>sitting ejected from one of the drives and  >there was a tape
 > >> >>in the gripper arm waiting to be inserted.   I haven't 
 > >seen that in
 > >> >>all of the 7 years I've been using Networker.   On at least
 > >> >>one occasion, I've attempted to move a tape with the  >>library front  
 > >> >>>> >>panel and received a message that the  >source was empty
 > >> >>(ejected tape) when it clearly was not.   And suddenly, 
 >the tapes
 > >> >>are being marked full with about 80 GB (these are
 >AIT-4)  >> with no error  >> >>messages showing up.  I'm  >using an Adaptec 
 >39320A
 > >> >>and the AIC79XX driver.   This is a dual channel card and 
 > >> >>I've switched
 > >> >>the two
 > >> >>cables around -- no change -- just erratic behavior,  >and  >occasional 
 > >> >> >> >>time when the robot arm doesn't move  >on program command  >(it 
 > >> >>always  >> >>moves by front panel)  >> >>
 > >> >>            I plan to install a different SCSI card --
 > >> 39160 to see if
 > >> >>there's any
 > >> >>change.   Any ideas of what's going on?   Does this kind 
 > >of erratic
 > >> >>scenario seem familiar to anyone?
 > >> >>
 > >> >>                                                            
 > >> >>Matt Temple
 > >> >>
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