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Re: [Networker] Hidden verbose savegroup option?

2005-08-12 11:30:57
Subject: Re: [Networker] Hidden verbose savegroup option?
From: George Sinclair <George.Sinclair AT NOAA DOT GOV>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 11:29:01 -0400
What exactly is the difference between all those 'v's? It's not clear from the man page for savegrp what adding three v's versus two versus one accomplishes. Can you just keep adding 'v's ad infinitum?

Anyway, I ran this as 'savegrp -vvv group_name' and it did generate a fair amount of information on what files were backed up for the affected savesets. Kinda cool. I see the same information in the savegroup e-mail completion notification. It also shows up in the group control window, too, and in the servers /nsr/logs/messages file. However, I see nothing under /nsr/tmp on the client, not even when I was running it. I tried doing this from the GUI also by setting Verbose on under the group, and again, it generates the information in the savegroup notification and the group control window, but I see nothing under /nsr/tmp.

George

Ty Young wrote:

George, I think I know what you're referring to.

(Under NW7x, but I think it worked under 6.x as well) If you manually kick
off a savegroup from the command-line with

     savegrp -vvv

you can watch the backups progress as details concerning not only savesets,
i.e. which files are backed up during an incremental, etc. but also things
like client versions, # of CPUs on the client, etc.    This used to be a
tool Legato Support suggested for use with the Probe option of savegroup
(i.e. savegrp -vvv -p) which would basically check for connectivity between
the server's nsrd and the client's nsrexec[d] processes.

What I have found more recently is that using the "-vvv" flag when running
actual backups can be very dangerous. The reason is that (as you have
correctly said below) the 'vvv' option turns on something in NetWorker to
make it generate a file-by-file listing in /nsr/tmp of everything backed up
for a given saveset.  If you (like I have in the past) do this with a large
(i.e. 1 TB) saveset, the temp file can become very large very quickly.
If this becomes too large, apparently NetWorker chokes on it and deletes
the file.  If, upon saveset backup completion, NetWorker can't find that
file [because it was previously deleted] it restarts the backups from 0 MB.

I've opened more than one case with Legato on this and simply been told
"yeah, well, don't do that"  with respect to the '-vvv' specification in
the savegrp command.

Thoughts?

-ty

Phillip T. ("Ty") Young, DMA
Manager, Data Center and Backup/Recovery Services
Information Services
i2 Technologies, Inc.


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How do you enable the hidden verbose savegroup option? How do you use
this to see what a client's backup is doing?

Someone mentioned this the other day in a reply to the "Problem with
ending a savegroup" posting. Something about being able to then do a
tail on a file in  /nsr/tmp.
I never see anything under /nsr/tmp except some lock files and a 'sec'
directory that's essentially empty. What file would this be? Also, I
should note that /nsr/tmp has not been updated at any time recently on
any clients I look at. Not sure what info it would contain that would be
useful?

George

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