Bacula-users

Re: [Bacula-users] newbie question

2011-01-17 19:46:52
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] newbie question
From: Dan Langille <dan AT langille DOT org>
To: Randy Katz <rkatz AT simplicityhosting DOT com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:44:15 -0500
> On 1/17/2011 2:00 PM, Dan Langille wrote:
>> On 1/17/2011 4:35 PM, Randy Katz wrote:
>>> Dan, if you don't want me on the list I understand, I know where the
>>> On 1/17/2011 7:52 AM, Dan Langille wrote:
>>>> On 1/17/2011 10:42 AM, Randy Katz wrote:
>>>>> Hi, new to list, saw a bunch of docs, can anyone recommend a quick
>>>>> start, with mysql, that includes a run
>>>>> through of backing up a remote server. I have already compiled and
>>>>> installed bacula with mysql, have not done
>>>>> any configuration yet. Thank you in advance.
>>>> 
>>>> First, when posting a message, use a descriptive subject.
>>>> 
>>>> The quick start is in the docs. :)
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.bacula.org/5.0.x-manuals/en/main/main/Getting_Started_with_Bacula.html
>>>>  
>> 
>>> Dan, if you don't want me on the list I understand,
>> 
>> You ask a very specific question and were provided with a very specific 
>> answer.  Not once, but the same answer by two different people.
>> 
>> Concluding that I don't want you on the list is just plain silly.  :)
>> 
>>> I know where the  docs are,
>> 
>> Well, you didn't say anything about having read a particular part of the 
>> docs and having been confused by it....  Thus, assuming you hadn't found the 
>> Getting Started docs was rather reasonable.
>> 
>>> if they told me
>>> how to get a quick start test up and running I wouldn't have asked the
>>> stupid newbie question,
>> 
>> But you didn't ask a stupid newbie question.
>> 
>> > this
>>> guide tells me about doing it but not what to do just says I need to
>>> modify the conf files but does'nt
>>> give a clue how:
>>> 
>>> http://www.bacula.org/5.0.x-manuals/en/main/main/Getting_Started_with_Bacula.html
>>>  
>> 
>> Well, get specific with your questions...  How do I configure this 
>> particular item?   For example.
>> 
>>> I guess newbie's are not welcome here? Seems quite strange, enjoy!
>> 
>> Trolling ignored, but if you want hand holding, sorry, we've got other 
>> things to do.  If you have a *specific* question about some aspect of the 
>> documentation, we're happy to help.
>> 
>> As for a quick-how-go.... it's there....  Point out a paragraph, and ask a 
>> question.  We're happy to help, but not with a broad question such as: wtf 
>> is going on, I have no idea....
>> 
> 


On Jan 17, 2011, at 6:46 PM, Randy Katz <rkatz AT simplicityhosting DOT com> 
wrote:

> Dan, I said I compiled and installed the program but had not done 
> configuration, implies
> I had some exposure to some docs somewhere. If you care to help here is a 
> reply to a
> guy that gave me an off-list reply of sorts, as of yet I have not received 
> what he spoke about
> which might prove to be partially helpful:
> 
> "That might be very helpful please forward. All I want is a setup where I can 
> grab backups
> from some machines out in the network (internet) and store the backed up data 
> on disk (not on tape),
> so I don't need all the tape configuration stuff...yet.  In the docs it is 
> not clear to me how to setup
> the database, although it says run the scripts there is no example, I looked 
> in the script it seems to
> require a db password, but I don't know which script to run first or how to 
> proceed based on the docs, perhaps
> the guys on this list have had it configured for so long they don't 
> remember...! 

Please do not top post. 

Another tip: explicit provide information.   As opposed to implicit. Do not 
expect the list to mind read or assume.

Try also: 

http://www.freebsddiary.org/bacula.php

Please stop with the defensive posts. You have made your point. It's clear I 
don't know how to best help newbies, and need to learn how. I shall amend my 
decades of inappropriate behavior. You were right. I was wrong. 


-- 
Dan Langille
http://langille.org
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