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Re: [BackupPC-users] Basic setup issues (Ubuntu 12.10)

2013-01-04 14:33:14
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Basic setup issues (Ubuntu 12.10)
From: "Travis.Schwenke" <travis.schwenke AT gmail DOT com>
To: "'General list for user discussion, questions and support'" <backuppc-users AT lists.sourceforge DOT net>
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 14:31:47 -0500

I guess one important question I have then is, should I be adding my account to the backuppc group and should I be adding the backuppc user to anything?  I don't think the user should be done moved as that seems like it could be a security issue.

 

> You mentioned something about your 'only' list being ignored.  When you specify this, the 'key' part is the sharename or '*' for all

> shares, and the value is the path to back up.   And with smb you can't

> specify both backupfilesonly and backupexclude because there is no way to pass both to the client.

 

Yeah, I did some reading last night and I think that was my issue in specifying the backupfilesonly, I think I put it into the wrong part of the form.  I did see some others were having issues.  I assume this is on a PER host basis?  I think it is as it seems the host config file trumps the main config is something was set there. So I was going to create a share that had two directories in it and make sure it was doing it right.  I figured that was the cake once I had some larger issues sorted out.  And in most cases not issues, just a rookie driver trying to understand and not just randomly type in things and mess up my system.

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Les Mikesell [mailto:lesmikesell AT gmail DOT com]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 10:53
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] Basic setup issues (Ubuntu 12.10)

 

On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Travis Schwenke <travis.schwenke AT gmail DOT com> wrote:

> 

>> Are you talking about the "backuppc" system user, which owns the data

>> files and SSH keys, and runs some programs like rsync? Or are you

>> talking about the HTTPauth user? Your example commands seem to

>> indicate that you understand there are two.

> 

> Well, I figured there were two but wasn't 100% sure.  So the

> frustrating part would be that I seem to NOT know then the password to

> the backuppc USER that was created on the system.

 

It may not have a valid password and probably doesn't have a valid shell.  They aren't necessary and omitting them is good for security.

You just need to know how to work around it.

 

> After the install it gave me a password and that works for the web

> page but obviously NOT for the user, since su fails.

> I also tried su -s /bin/bash backuppc, but the password seemed wrong.

 

If you start as root, you don't need the password.

 

> Guess

> I might need to open a shell as root (or sudo) so that I can force

> change the password.  Just frustrating that on a clean install I can't

> even RUN the command all the instructions say to run.  I am not

> totally used to the sudo thing since I had Mandriva running for years

> and would su over to the root to fix/update system things.

 

On ubuntu, the problem is that root doesn't get a password.    So, use

sudo su -  (or maybe the special-case 'sudo -i') with your password to become root.  From there you can su -s /bin/bash backkuppc

 

>> Consider also adding a symlink to your new destination:

> Not sure what benefit this has if I just point to a new spot??  The

> /data01 is a 800Gb partition on a separate drive, the other 200Gb is

> mounted as /www or /ftp (don't remember how I did that 2 weeks ago!). 

> In any case I have /data01, /data02 and /data03 all mounted at the

> root right now which are all individual drives.  (/data02 is the main

> one I need to backup on this system, has all our music etc!)

 

The simple-minded approach here is to mount your volume at /var/lib/backuppc (where the distribution packager decided it should

be) _before_ installing the package.   Moving it works, of course,

with varying degrees of hassle.

 

>> 2. Test your SSH key authentication carefully. Consider giving the

>> backuppc user a shell (see "sudo chsh backuppc"), temporarily, so you

>> can login and test. I give it one permanently, although that could be

>> regarded as a security risk.

 

If you understand the options with sudo and su, you don't need that.

 

> Ok, I have to do all this (maybe, might stick with tar).  My first

> thing was to get the BackupPC running and backing up the windows boxes

> in the house using smb (to the RIGHT SPOT).

 

You mentioned something about your 'only' list being ignored.  When you specify this, the 'key' part is the sharename or '*' for all

shares, and the value is the path to back up.   And with smb you can't

specify both backupfilesonly and backupexclude because there is no way to pass both to the client.

 

--

   Les Mikesell

      lesmikesell AT gmail DOT com

 

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