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Re: [ADSM-L] Very weird design change SAP HANA client

2016-07-29 13:06:29
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Very weird design change SAP HANA client
From: Del Hoobler <hoobler AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2016 13:04:37 -0400
Eric,

This "design change" is a "change" from the Data Protection for ERP 
perspective, but not from the Data Protection for ERP for SAP HANA 
perspective, which has always worked this way.

This design "change" is a result of a current limitation in the SAP HANA 
BACKINT API and is expected to be temporary.  This backup API streams the 
backup data to the DP for SAP HANA client via named pipes and today it 
gives no indication whether the data stream was complete or the pipe was 
closed prematurely due to some error. 

We don't want to expire a prior/older backup version unless we know we 
have a successful new backup version so we do not currently offer 
expiration of backups based on version limit.  However, we do plan to 
provide that capability once SAP implements the enhancement to the backup 
API we have requested (to indicate whether or not all the data was 
streamed  successfully).  SAP did indicate they plan to provide that 
enhancement but we do not yet have a target date for that. 


Thank you,

Del

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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 07/29/2016 
07:23:32 AM:

> From: "Loon, EJ van (ITOPT3) - KLM" <Eric-van.Loon AT KLM DOT COM>
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Date: 07/29/2016 07:24 AM
> Subject: Very weird design change SAP HANA client
> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> 
> Hello all!
> Recently we started to use the Data Protection for SAP HANA client. 
> I created a TSM node identical to the already existing Data 
> Protection for SAP node and now customer reported that he received 
> the following error message after a successful backup:
> 
> BKI8649E: The automatic deletion of backups is not supported. Change
> the value of the MAX_VERSIONS parameter to 0
> 
> I googled for the BKI8649E and stumbled across technote IT11810 
> which explains that versioning through the MAX_VERSIONS parameter is
> no longer supported. You now have to use TSM to control the 
> retention for your SAP backups. That would be very nice if the TDP 
> client was creating backup files on TSM and was working like the 
> Oracle client (active files are kept forever until they are marked 
> inactive by RMAN/TDP for Oracle). But the DP for SAP client creates 
> archive files, so when you backup your SAP database, the files are 
> kept for the amount of time set in the archive copy group. This 
> means that if you have a copygroup setting of 14 days and you do not
> backup your database for 14 days for some reason, on day 15 you no 
> longer have any backup available for recovery!!!
> I think this is absolutely unacceptable and I really don't 
> understand why IBM has decided to change this.
> The only work around one has is to set retver to unlimited and 
> delete the obsolete backup versions through HANA Studio. This is 
> also unacceptable I think, this is moving a design flaw to the customer 
side.
> Am I the only one struggling with this issue?
> Kind regards,
> Eric van Loon
> Air France/KLM Storage Engineering
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