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Re: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question

2015-06-17 02:36:07
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question
From: Ron Delaware <ron.delaware AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:33:59 -0700
Robert,

You cannot perform a normal incremental once you have performed a full image, unless you have two separate nodes, one doing image backups and one doing file by file backups.  You can do incremental image backups but not an file by file incremental.

 

Best Regards,

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From:        Robert Ouzen <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
To:        ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:        06/16/15 21:43
Subject:        Re: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question
Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>





Hello Erwann

I admit I am quite lost .....

I run a regular incremental backup on disk F:   (first time , so like full backup)

As:   INC  F:  -su=yes

I run a full image backup of F: as:   backup image F:

But if I run after a backup image with  -mode=incremental got error:

tsm> backup image f:  -mode=incremental
ANS1813E Image Backup processing of '\\nasw\f$' finished with failures.

ANS1229E MODE=INCREMENTAL is not valid on \\?\GLOBALROOT\Device\HarddiskVolumeShadowCopy17. Image backup not processed.

I erased everything an made a test without doing a regular incremental backup of disk F as shown below:

tsm> backup image F:

Image backup of volume 'F:'

Total number of objects inspected:            1
Total number of objects backed up:            1
Total number of objects updated:              0
Total number of objects rebound:              0
Total number of objects deleted:              0
Total number of objects expired:              0
Total number of objects failed:               0
Total number of objects encrypted:            0
Total number of objects grew:                 0
Total number of retries:                      0
Total number of bytes inspected:          19.99 GB
Total number of bytes transferred:        86.41 MB
Data transfer time:                        4.00 sec
Network data transfer rate:           22,123.01 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate:         13,869.33 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:                        0%
Total data reduction ratio:               99.58%
Elapsed processing time:               00:00:06
tsm> backup image F: -mode=incremental

Total number of objects inspected:           16
Total number of objects backed up:            0
Total number of objects updated:              0
Total number of objects rebound:              0
Total number of objects deleted:              0
Total number of objects expired:              0
Total number of objects failed:               0
Total number of objects encrypted:            0
Total number of objects grew:                 0
Total number of retries:                      0
Total number of bytes inspected:          41.56 KB
Total number of bytes transferred:            0  B
Data transfer time:                        0.00 sec
Network data transfer rate:                0.00 KB/sec
Aggregate data transfer rate:              0.00 KB/sec
Objects compressed by:                        0%
Total data reduction ratio:              100.00%
Elapsed processing time:               00:00:06
tsm>

Of course NO data in the -mode=incremental but NO error ????

What is the correct sequence to have combination of regular incremental backup and iimage backup ??

Thanks again for the advice

Best Regards

Robert



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [
mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of Erwann SIMON
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:26 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question

Hello Robert,

The –deletefiles flag won't be an option if you don't run regular incremental backup which is able to mark deleted files as inactive.

The -mode=incremental flag uses incremental by date method that does not, so TSM DB is not aware of file deletion.

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Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
Erwann SIMON

----- Mail original -----
De: "Robert Ouzen" <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
À: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Envoyé: Lundi 15 Juin 2015 14:50:58
Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question

Hello Erwann

I need a little bit more explanations.

if I understand correctly ,I need to do;

1. backup image E:                                                        (full backup)
2. backup image E:  -mode=incremental               (only new files are backup , fast backup

I want to use (test) the restore with option imagetofile

Restore image E: F:\diskE.iso -imagetofile      -incremental –deletefiles

So NO need  for regular  incremental  backup  ???

T.I.A  Best Regards

Robert


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [
mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of Erwann SIMON
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 10:18 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question

Hello Robert,

Backup image is a full image done at block level. When specifiying mode=incremental, il a file level incremental that is done : only files having a modified date later than the previous backup image are backed up.

The -deletefiles flag when restoring an image backup is only to be used when backup of the same volume is done twice : block level (image backup) and file level (regular forever incremental).

See this excellent presentation (from slide 28) :
http://tsm-symposium.oucs.ox.ac.uk/2007/papers/Andy%20Raibeck%20-%20Potpourri%20du%20Backup.pdf

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Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
Erwann SIMON

----- Mail original -----
De: "Robert Ouzen" <rouzen AT UNIV.HAIFA.AC DOT IL>
À: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Envoyé: Dimanche 14 Juin 2015 04:47:33
Objet: [ADSM-L] Backup and restore question

Hi to all

Question for people using BACKUP AND RESTORE IMAGE

I have a Windows client  with millions of files and I am thinking of using backup image on it.

Some questions ,  after the first backup image of disk E:  (full Image) as :  backup image E:

In the documentation I can use after it and incremental backup image as:  backup image E:   -mode=incremental    CORRECT ?

Of course the content of disk E: will change, files will be added and deleted.

So the correct syntax for restoring the image will be:    Restore image  E:   X:   -incremental    –deletefiles

Any advice will be appreciate

Best Regards

Robert Ouzen

Haifa University