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Re: [ADSM-L] TSM level for deduplication

2014-12-09 09:54:39
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM level for deduplication
From: Dave Canan <ddcanan AT OUTLOOK DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 06:52:09 -0800
I submitted this request to IBM TSM development,  and am posting it on their 
behalf:
TSM Data deduplication has been in the product since 6.1 (server side data 
deduplication) and 6.2 (client side data deduplication) and is therefore 
considered "mature" at the 7.1 version.  The data deduplication mechanism 
itself has remained largely unchanged since initial release but improvements 
have been focused on performance and increasing the size of files that could be 
deduplicated.  We recommend that customers be at either TSM 6.3.5 (or above) or 
TSM 7.1.1.100 (or above). The TSM 6.3.5 version contains the important 
performance improvements though this version did not add improvements in 
deduplicating large files.  TSM 7.1.1.100 contains not only the performance 
improvements but also ability to deduplicate larger files as well as 
replication performance improvements.  All 7.1 deduplication customers should 
be at 7.1.1.100 due to this problem: 
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21688321

Dave CananIBM SRT (TSM Solutions Response Team)ddcanan AT us DOT 
ibm.com916-723-2409Office Hours 9:00 - 5:00 PT

> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 13:00:53 -0500
> From: yodawoya AT GMAIL DOT COM
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM level for deduplication
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> 
> Would anyone from IBM care to comment on this thread?  is dedup a stable
> mature feature in 7.1.1?
> 
> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:50 PM, J. Pohlmann <jpohlmann AT shaw DOT ca> wrote:
> 
> > FYI - 7.1.1.000 is still on the FTP site. 7.1.1.100 is also on the FTP
> > site.
> > Ref http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg24035122
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Joerg Pohlmann
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On 
> > Behalf Of
> > Thomas Denier
> > Sent: December 8, 2014 08:34
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM level for deduplication
> >
> > Bent,
> >
> > TSM 7.1.1.000 had a bug that sometimes caused restores of large files to
> > fail. IBM considered the bug serious enough to warrant removing 7.1.1.000
> > from its software distribution servers.
> >
> > Thomas Denier
> > Thomas Jefferson University Hospital
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On 
> > Behalf Of
> > Bent Christensen
> > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 6:38 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] SV: TSM level for deduplication
> >
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > when you are calling 7.1.1- an "utter distaster" when it comes to dedup
> > then
> > what issues are you referring to?
> >
> > I have been using 7.1.1 in a production environment dedupping some 500 TB,
> > approx 400 nodes, without any bigger issues for more than a year now.
> >
> > Surely, there are still lots of "not-very-well-documented features" in TSM
> > 7, and I am not at all impressed by IBM support, and especially not DB2
> > support and their lack of willingness to recognize TSM DB2 as being a
> > production environment, but when it comes to dedupping it has been smooth
> > sailing for us up until now.
> >
> >
> >  - Bent
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] P&#229; vegne af
> > Thomas
> > Denier [Thomas.Denier AT JEFFERSON DOT EDU]
> > Sendt: 5. december 2014 20:56
> > Til: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Emne: [ADSM-L] TSM level for deduplication
> >
> > My management is very eager to deploy TSM deduplication in our production
> > environment. We have been testing deduplication on a TSM 6.2.5.0 test
> > server, but the list of known bugs makes me very uncomfortable about using
> > that level for production deployment of deduplication. The same is true of
> > later Version 6 levels and TSM 7.1.0. TSM 7.1.1.000 was an utter disaster.
> > Is there any currently available level in which the deduplication code is
> > really fit for production use?
> >
> > IBM has historically described patch levels as being less thoroughly tested
> > than maintenance levels. Because of that I have avoided patch levels unless
> > they were the only option for fixing crippling bugs in code we were already
> > using.
> > Is that attitude still warranted? In particular, is that attitude warranted
> > for TSM 7.1.1.100?
> >
> > Has IBM dropped any hints about the likely availability date for TSM
> > 7.1.2.000?
> >
> > Thomas Denier
> > Thomas Jefferson University Hospital
> >
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