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Re: [ADSM-L] Tivoli Storage Manager for Virtual Environments

2012-01-10 10:47:57
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Tivoli Storage Manager for Virtual Environments
From: Rick Adamson <RickAdamson AT WINN-DIXIE DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:41:19 -0500
Zoltan, 
I did a full proof-of-concept on TSM4VE but abandoned it until I could
go to TSM v.6.3 on the TSM Servers. So I'll try to give you some
feedback based strictly on my experiences.......if I miss the mark
perhaps others can add to my comments.

 1.  What are the specs/requirements for the "vStorage/Backup Server"
that
we will have to build? 
It really depends on your design decisions. I used a 2xquad-core with
16gb RAM and it seemed to idle through backing up 20-30 VM guests using
the SAN transport model, network transport was unacceptably SLOW! 

2.  What network requirements are there?
This will also depend on design, or backup strategy; if it is using the
SAN transport method the network is only used for metadata. Yes, network
rules will need to be added/modified depending if you put the TSM4VE
backup server on the subnet with the VMware hosts or the TSM servers.

3. What, if anything, needs to be installed on the Host or Guest
systems?
Assuming you are referring to the VMware "hosts" and VMware guests;
nothing goes on the VMware hosts, installing the BA client in the guests
is optional and only needed if you prefer to do restores directly to the
client (versus the TSM4VE backup server).

4.  What do I need to do TSM server-wise?
Register the TSM4VE backup server and VM clients then grant proxy
access.
Setup schedules and associations (IMHO this can be a real challenge if
using TSM Server v.5.5)

5.  Do I need to put up a new TSM server or can I use one already in
production?  I have never done LAN-FREE and not sure where to start?
Assuming your existing servers have the resources there is no need to
stand up a new one unless it is version 5.5.x.

There are some severe limitations in using TSM4VE on Server level 5.5,
primarily around scheduling, hence I am now making plans for version 6.3
upgrade.
The lan-free is accomplished by SAN zoning, the TSM4VE bkup server is
zoned to access the VMware data stores (similar how you would zone LUNS
for clustering). SANERGY is not needed. (DON'T FORGET TO USE DISKPART TO
DISABLE AUTO DRIVE LETTER ASSIGNMENTS on TSM4VE bkup server(s))
While I have not tested it I would assume you could do the same with
your tape drives seeing as you mentioned they are fibre.

The best advice I can probably give you is setup a TSM4VE bkup server
and test, test, test. 

You may have already seen these but I found helpful.

TSM4VE Wiki site:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/display/tivolistoragemanager/IB
M+Tivoli+Storage+Manager+for+Virtual+Environments 

TSM4VE using Lan-free:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/display/tivolistoragemanager/Re
commendations+for+Using+LAN-free+with+TSM+for+Virtual+Environments 

TSM4VE Scheduling Recommendations:
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/display/tivolistoragemanager/Re
commendations+for+Scheduling+with+TSM+for+Virtual+Environments 

Hope you find this helpful.

~Rick


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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 3:35 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Tivoli Storage Manager for Virtual Environments

Some questions that we could not easily glean answer from the docs:

1.  What are the specs/requirements for the "vStorage/Backup Server"
that
we will have to build? Haven't seen any officially, I used a 2xquad-core
with 
2.  What network requirements are there?  Our TSM backup servers are on
a
completely different subnet then the VMWare servers.  Network rules will
have to be modified.
3.  What, if anything, needs to be installed on the Host or Guest
systems?
4.  What do I need to do TSM server-wise?
5.  Do I need to put up a new TSM server or can I use one already in
production?  I have never done LAN-FREE and not sure where to start?  My
TSM servers use fibre-channel for tape drives (shared among 7-servers).
Many moons ago I remember a sub-product called SANERGY but it wanted
exclusive control of tape drives via a mini-psuedo TSM server.  We can't
afford to dedicate tape drives exclusively to such a process.

Thanks for the tip on "diskpart" but I am not at a point that I
understand
how to apply it.  I am not that familiar with VMWare and the VMWare guys
are not that familiar with TSM (other than installing on Windows
guests).
Zoltan Forray
TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
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From:   Shawn Drew <shawn.drew AT AMERICAS.BNPPARIBAS DOT COM>
To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:   01/09/2012 03:14 PM
Subject:        Re: [ADSM-L] Tivoli Storage Manager for Virtual
Environments
Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>



I actually found the manual to be very helpful and direct.  I prefer the
PDF form.  I'm not a fan of the newer infocenter format.

http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/tsminfo/v6r3/index.jsp?topic=%2
Fcom.ibm.itsm.nav.doc%2Fr_pdf_ve.html



I set it up step-by-step as the manual describes and it is working well.
You just need to play around with it to make sure you understand the
concepts.  (I.E. Data Center nodes, the way you restore using the
recovery
agent by using a virtual mount, etc)

Just make sure you do the "diskpart" thing on your backup proxy.  Things
should be pretty safe after you've done that.  (search the PDF for
diskpart)

Regards,
Shawn
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Ken,

My VMWare guy has the most questions.  Can I forward your direct email
address to him?

I too will have questions from the TSM/server side since I have never
setup anything like this.  Seems like LAN-FREE is the way to configure
but
I have never done anything like that, either.
Zoltan Forray
TSM Software & Hardware Administrator
Virginia Commonwealth University
UCC/Office of Technology Services
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From:   Kenneth Bury <kenbury1 AT GMAIL DOT COM>
To:     ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:   01/09/2012 12:03 PM
Subject:        Re: [ADSM-L] Tivoli Storage Manager for Virtual
Environments
Sent by:        "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>



I have install the TSM for VE v6.3 and I am interested what you would
expect to see in the 'cookbook'. What I hear discussed the most is the
architectural choices that you can make using TSM for VE, like whether
to
use client-side de-dupe, LAN-free, virtual or physical data movers, etc.
Once you figure out what you want to make, the recipe is straight
forward.
Sort of like cooking eggs, lots of different methods but it's still the
same egg and close to the same taste.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Vandeventer, Harold [BS] <
Harold.Vandeventer AT da.ks DOT gov> wrote:

> We are also looking for that "cookbook."
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> Harold Vandeventer
> Systems Programmer
> State of Kansas - Department of Administration - Office of Information
> Technology Services
> Harold.Vandeventer AT da.ks DOT gov
> (785) 296-0631
>



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Client Technical Professional

kenbury AT us.ibm DOT com



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