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Re: [ADSM-L] EXPORTING clients

2011-07-11 07:29:28
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] EXPORTING clients
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray AT VCU DOT EDU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 07:24:14 -0400
Well, when I did a Google search for "tivoli storage manager server export
hang"  (my condition), I find lots of hits, many old.  The one I think I
was looking at is IC60895 but you are beyond that level.

Sorry.....



From:
"Hughes, Timothy" <Timothy.Hughes AT OIT.STATE.NJ DOT US>
To:
ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:
07/10/2011 12:07 PM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] EXPORTING clients
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>



AIX 6.1.0
TSM SERVER 6.2.2.0

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Zoltan Forray
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:40 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: EXPORTING clients

What V/R/M/OS are you running?

"Hughes, Timothy" <Timothy.Hughes AT OIT.STATE.NJ DOT US> wrote:

Hi Zoltan,

Thanks...I will take a look at those there on the IBM support site I
assume correct? I tried looking for something about this issue before but
could not find anything. I will try again must have missed something.

Regards

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Zoltan Forray
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:43 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: EXPORTING clients

IIRC, there are some server patches related to exports causing problems.

"Hughes, Timothy" <Timothy.Hughes AT OIT.STATE.NJ DOT US> wrote:

I think you may be correct, I don't see those input wait times most of the
time only once or twice since doing the exports. Still our main issue
seems to be the suspend export command seems to hang and/or cause the
destination TSM Server to crash. Also running more than one export seems
to cause a hang sometimes currently running only 1 export (frustrating)
cause this is going to take forever doing these exports.

regards

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Paul Zarnowski
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:29 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: EXPORTING clients

Richard,

Here is something to think about:

What Timothy is doing is essentially tape-to-tape data movement for one
node, with that node's data likely scattered to some degree across the
input tape. This means that there will be some tape repositioning needed
to read the input tape. If the output was to disk, it is likely that the
input tape could stay pretty much in streaming mode. However, with the
output being directed to tape, IMHO it is much more likely that between
the input tape repositions and not being able to keep the output tape in
streaming mode, the combination will likely result in an inordinate amount
of backhitching. I don't think this is a hardware error, so much as a tape
technology limitation. We get around this by using serial disk as an
interim step, which allows the whole process to run more quickly (because
there is less overall backhitching).

..Paul


At 08:34 AM 7/8/2011, Richard Sims wrote:
>On Jul 8, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Hughes, Timothy wrote:
>
>> Yes, We are doing Server-to-tape exports. I did notice a couple times
long input tape mounts on the destination TSM SERVER one was around 6,000
seconds another around 14,000 seconds and another 17,000 seconds.
>
>Export/Import operations are, per the Admin Guide manual topic
"Preemption of client or server operations", high priority, which would
pre-empt lower priority operations in order to get a tape mount started.
If prompt allocation of tape drives is being reflected in your Activity
Log, but then tape mount and positioning is taking an inordinate amount of
time, that would suggest hardware issues with tapes or drives. If
non-Export operations do not exhibit such delays, then something else is
going on, where analysis of the Activity Log and operating system logs may
reveal factors. If no cause is evident, contacting TSM Support would be in
order.
>
> Richard Sims


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