Greetings,
I led our team doing a TSM audit on a 2000 server environment about
a year ago. The biggest headache I have ever had. There are so many
exceptions for each different kind of servers. VMware servers,
standalone Windows, NAS, Clusters, AIX Lpars in a sub-processor lpar.
It took a couple months, and we still probably had some mistakes in it,
but we got REALLY close.
We just recently installed IBM License Metric Tool. The early
versions were really bad, but the version we recently installed (7.5, I
think) seems to work correctly. It even seems to count correctly the
AIX sub-processor Lpars, which we thought would confuse it. Deploying it
in a large environment will be a project, but it comes with a
self-extracting installer that won't be too tough, once we script it.
The only problem is that you have to set up a config file that defines
where your ILMT server is, and then you have to push that out to each
server before you run the installer on each host to install it.
In the future we will make it part of our standard build, which
will make it more seamless.
But I believe that, once we get it deployed, it will really be less
work than any other method of counting licenses would be.
The other choice would be a capacity-based license. I understand
IBM is starting to make these available. The hitch is that each license
is individually negotiated with IBM, and you have to count your licenses
with PVUs first to establish a "baseline" for calculating what a "fair"
capacity-based license would be. This sounds like to me like everybody
will end up paying a different price for TSM, depending on their mix of
TSM clients when they establish their "baseline", and what kind of
negotiators they are.
Best Regards,
John D. Schneider
The Computer Coaching Community, LLC
Office: (314) 635-5424 / Toll Free: (866) 796-9226
Cell: (314) 750-8721
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Does TSM Have a way to Automatically Determine
How many CPU'S aka processors a server has
From: Robert Clark <robert.clark7 AT USBANK DOT COM>
Date: Mon, April 26, 2010 4:04 pm
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Funny phrase that, "shear amout of work". Unintentional pun? As in
fleecing sheep?
[RC]
From:
David Longo <David.Longo AT HEALTH-FIRST DOT ORG>
To:
ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date:
04/23/2010 11:25 AM
Subject:
Re: [ADSM-L] Does TSM Have a way to Automatically Determine How many
CPU'S
aka processors a server has
Sent by:
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
I bet a lot of people get extra counts for reasons you mentioned
and related ones.
David Longo
>>> Rick Adamson <RickAdamson AT WINN-DIXIE DOT COM> 4/23/2010 2:08 PM >>>
We just recently went through an IBM audit and were tasked with
collecting this information on several hundred machines, some local and
some remote. When I told my management that TSM does not collect this
info he got our IBM rep on the phone for confirmation. I spent a
considerable amount of time trying to find a way to get a near accurate
count without having to worry about hyperthreading fudging my numbers.
Intel makes, or made, a small utility call cpucount that does the job.
With very little scripting it can gather the numbers. I just created a
for loop that referenced a text file with the node names and ported it
out to a cvs file.
David if you can't find it let me know and I will see if I still have a
copy.
I STRONGLY suggest that anyone about to attempt this read the IBM
license terms regarding PVU's.
IBM has no compassion regarding the shear amount of work the it requires
and they send third party auditors out to your site that only have the
slightest clue what they are doing. In many situations they tried to
double count our MS clusters (once for the physical nodes, and again for
the virtual instance names. I explained it to them and when we got their
analysis report...you guessed it, there it was. I should have known when
they had that deer-in-the-headlights look on their face.
Thank you,
~Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Richard Rhodes
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:49 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Does TSM Have a way to Automatically Determine How
many CPU'S aka processors a server has
We made it throught the ILMT install, but are not in production yet with
it.
The actual install wasn't that difficult, but the instructions leave
much
to be desired - a lot of words with little info.
For example, it installs DB2 for it's db. Ok . . . I assume it has
some
built in backup system. Then I read a little comment that for backups
refer to the DB2 documentation, and a link to the DB2 infocenter. We're
an
Oracle shop . . .no one here knows DB2. No help, no cheat sheet, no
built
in backup scripts - just go read the db2 manuals! One of my tasks now
is
to become a DB2 dba . . . what fun! (probably a good thing for our
eventual migration to TSM v6)
Another example . . .it's reporting the wrong units for a certain AIX
model. You show the support guy the actual web page where the units for
the server are listed, but you get nowhere.
Rick
Lindsay Morris
<lindsay@TSMWORKS
.COM>
To
Sent by: "ADSM: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Dist Stor
cc
Manager"
<[email protected]
Subject
.EDU> Re: Does TSM Have a way to
Automatically Determine How many
CPU'S aka processors a server has
04/23/2010 11:41
AM
Please respond to
"ADSM: Dist Stor
Manager"
<[email protected]
.EDU>
There's ITLM, IBM Tivoli License Manager.
It's kind of bear to install, I hear.
(Has anybody done it?)
But nobody else has a fully automated solution AFAIK.
Contact me off-line and I can give you some other options.
--------------------
Lindsay Morris
CEO, TSMworks
Tel. 1-859-539-9900
lindsay AT tsmworks DOT com
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:30 AM, David W Daniels/AC/VCU
<dwdaniel AT vcu DOT edu>wrote:
> All, Does anyone know if TSM has the capability to count and report
how
> many CPU'S aka processor(s) a server has? I'm asking because it SLA
time
> and this is some of the information we would like and hopefully charge
> user departments for in regard to TSM support.
>
> Also if there's is another way to get this information automatically
> please share....
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