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Re: [ADSM-L] TSM DB Size

2009-11-10 13:04:17
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM DB Size
From: Kelly Lipp <lipp AT STORSERVER DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:03:04 -0700
And most importantly, if you get a room full of TSM gurus, IBM types and folks 
like us, nobody will really agree on a hard number.

What I have seen during 10 years and hundreds of TSM environments is that the 
number has gradually increased.  When I first got into this business, 50GB was 
huge.  Now that's nothing.  The more normal is 100-150GB and things seem to be 
working just fine.  I recall a period of time, soon after Dave Cannon arrived, 
that IBM's engineering focus was on quality.  They did a ton of great work 
fixing what ailed the product.  We could see the results afterwards.  This work 
set the base for what we're seeing today (up to 5.5.x anyway).  Couple that 
with huge improvements in hardware performance and our favorite product has 
grown up nicely.

Our problems are so much different than everybody else's.  They're still 
worried about getting the weekly full backup done they can't think about 
anything else.  That or adding the next freaking band-aid to their already half 
assed (and declining) solution.

You can sure tell when I'm working on a customer presentation can't you?

Kelly Lipp
Chief Technical Officer
www.storserver.com
719-266-8777 x7105
STORServer solves your data backup challenges. 
Once and for all.


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Shawn Drew
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 10:10 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM DB Size

100-120GB was the IBM recommended limit based on their tests on a baseline
AIX system (Specs are lost to history).
I talked to the Watson Research guys at a Symposium quite a while ago on
this.
(The guy was from one of their east coast research places, and I'm
assuming it was Watson.  He was with IBM Global Services and described his
job as basically playing with all the hardware that came out and wrote
reports and guidelines for them.)

The idea was that if you have a faster system than their baseline, you can
go higher.  It was a general rule-of-thumb type of thing.

You can decide for yourself on your own hardware with your own data based
on how long your expirations/db backups take and if that's acceptable to
you.


Regards,
Shawn
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We had a health check done by IBM when we were at TSM 5.3 and were told
they don't recommend a DB size higher than 120Gb for performance and
restore purposes.

Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Kelly Lipp
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:48 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM DB Size

The architectural limit is 500GB.  Practically, one should be a good bit
smaller.  It really boils down to how long do you want a restore of the
backed up DB to take?  Figure about 150% of the backup time for a
restore.  Can you live with that?

Kelly Lipp
Chief Technical Officer
www.storserver.com
719-266-8777 x7105
STORServer solves your data backup challenges.
Once and for all.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Huebschman, George J.
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:42 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM DB Size

We have DB's over 190 Gb in 5.5, on AIX servers:

 TSM_Server       CAP_GB     MAX_EXT_GB     PCT_UTIL     MAX_UTIL
-----------     -------     ----------     --------     --------
AIXPRODXYZ       191.95           0.00         89.4         89.4

AIXPRODDMZ       219.76           4.17         90.3         91.1

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Richard Mochnaczewski
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:35 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] TSM DB Size

Hi *,

Does anyone know what the maximum size database is for TSM 5.4 and TSM
5.5 ? We were told by IBM when we were at TSM 5.3 that 120Gb was the
limit and was wondering what the limit is for 5.4 and 5.5.

Currently running TSM 5.4.3.0 on AIX 5.3 TL 9.

Rich






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