Here's adding my 2c to the confusion:
I agree with Lindsay; setting
DOMAIN D:
is dangerous, because that way all you get is D:, and if someone adds an E:
drive later, it will be skipped.
So I recommend using Bill's notation:
Domain ALL-LOCAL -C:
or
Domain ALL-LOCAL
Domain -C:
Domain statements are additive; so if you specify all-local minus C:, if
someone adds an E: drive later it will be correctly picked up.
However, the original poster wanted to back up a subdirectory on C:
If you exclude C: with a Domain statement, or with exclude.dir, you can't
back up a subdirectory, because TSM will never traverse the C: drive at all.
The only way to backup a subdirectory in C: without backing up all of C: is
exclude c:\...\*
include c:\...\subdir\...\*
And that is going to give you a backup of all the files in subdir, and any
subdirectories of subdir, AND a backup of all the other directory objects on
C: as well. No way around that.
NOW for my quibble, which is with the use of this notation:
INCORRECT:
exclude c:\...\*.*
The include/exclude statements are doing a pattern match against the long
file name.
If you use the notation "*.*", the include/exclude statement will NOT match
any files that do not have a "." in the name. There aren't a lot, but you
will find some files in window with no suffix. I have NEVER seen a case in
a real TSM site where the use of this notation was correct, or getting the
intended results.
The correct notation is c:\...\*
the \ ...\ is a wildcard for any number of subdirectories (including 0
subdirectories), and the * is a pattern match for any number of characters,
so it always works.
Unfortunately the incorrect use of c:\...\*.* persisted in the client manual
for a long time, but it was an artifact leftover from prehistoric windows
versions, before windows used long file names. And of course, it still
persists in web-space (and probably will persist long after we're dead
because of that!). But it's still incorrect.
W
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM, lindsay morris <lindsay AT tsmworks DOT
com>wrote:
> Well, not to quibble, Bill, but you can use exclude.dir to avoid
> getting the C: directories, right?
> And the problem of users / admins adding a drive in the future, and
> TSM then SILENTLY skipping it due to DOMAIN D:, is real.
>
> I mean, I've seen this happen, and want to warn against this bad
> practice.
> Agree? Disagree?
> ------
> Mr. Lindsay Morris
> Principal
> www.tsmworks.com
> 919-403-8260
> lindsay AT tsmworks DOT com
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2009, at Jul 23, 10:54 AM, Bill Boyer wrote:
>
> I prefer to exclude it from the DOMAIN. That way you won't get the
>> directories on the C: drive. This is from the help.
>>
>>
>> For example, in the following options Tivoli Storage Manager will
>> process all local drives except for the c: drive, systemobject,
>> and systemstate domain:
>>
>> domain ALL-LOCAL -c: -systemobject
>> domain ALL-LOCAL -c: -systemstate
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill Boyer
>> "Life is hard. After all, it kills you." - Katharine Hepburn
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
>> Behalf Of
>> lindsay morris
>> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:27 AM
>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>> Subject: Re: Incl/Excl Problem
>>
>> Well, there's a problem there:
>> Our ART product has found several customers that shot themselves in
>> the foot by doing this:
>> DOMAIN D:
>> because they don't want to back up C:, a stock image of windows-and-
>> office.
>>
>> That works fine. But months later, the user adds drive E:, and TSM
>> silently skips it.
>>
>> Better to use exclude of C:, IMHO
>>
>> ------
>> Mr. Lindsay Morris
>> Principal
>> www.tsmworks.com
>> 919-403-8260
>> lindsay AT tsmworks DOT com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2009, at Jul 23, 10:05 AM, km wrote:
>>
>> Even easier (no OS involvment) would be to use:
>>>
>>> virtualmountpoint c:\dir
>>> domain c:\dir
>>>
>>> in dsm.opt
>>>
>>> -km
>>>
>>> On 23/07, Adrian Compton wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Patryk
>>>>
>>>> I found the best way to selectively backup directories was to
>>>> create a
>>>> share on the directory, and you can then choose that share as a
>>>> domain
>>>> to backup in your opt file.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adrian Compton
>>>> Aspen Pharmacare Port Elizabeth
>>>> tel: +2741 4072855
>>>> Fax: +2741 453 7452
>>>> Cell: +27823204495
>>>> Email: acompton AT aspenpharma DOT com
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
>>>> Behalf Of
>>>> Patryk Bobak
>>>> Sent: 23 July 2009 09:37 AM
>>>> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>>> Subject: [ADSM-L] Incl/Excl Problem
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have problem with Incl/Excl list on client. I've searched forum
>>>> and
>>>> google
>>>> but I cant find good solution. I want to backup only one selected
>>>> folder
>>>> (with subfolders and files) from C:. For example "C:\test\". I
>>>> tryed a
>>>> lot
>>>> of configurations with exclude, exclude.dir and includes, and it
>>>> backup
>>>> my
>>>> whole C: or dont backup anything.
>>>>
>>>> TSM Client: 6.1 Windows, TSM Server: 5.5.0 z/OS
>>>>
>>>> Patryk.
>>>>
>>>
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