Buddy,
Thanks for your feedback !
The setup you've done should effectively not require additionnal licenses : I
thought you where performing file-level virtual machine backups, which to my
mind, should require one licence per virtual machine backed-up ...
Cheers.
Arnaud
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Buddy Howeth
Sent: mercredi 17 juin 2009 17:26
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Backing up running VM's
We had IBM come to our company to help with the setup.
We have 3 ESX 3.5 servers running linux that are our hosts for the VMs. We have
one physical windows box which is the VCB (Virtual Consolidate Backup). This
machine has a TSM Windows client installed. In the pre/post schedule section
of the client we have commands that cause VMware to do the snapshots to the
Drive D of the VCB. When the snapshots are complete, TSM backs the VCB machine
up including any snapshot on drive D.
I believe I may still have the white paper we received from IBM on the subject.
This does not violate any license issue with IBM.
Buddy Howeth
Computer Operations Specialist
Information Systems
Pacific Coast Producers
Corporate Offices
631 N. Cluff Ave
Lodi, CA 95240-0756
(209) 367-8800 - Main#
(209) 367-6288 - Computer Room
(209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager
PAC Brion Arnaud <Arnaud.Brion AT PANALPINA DOT COM> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor
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Buddy,
Could you please elaborate, or provide some form of reference/proof for your
assertion ?
This would be absolutely great news, but as far as I know, IBM is not a
non-profit organization ;-)
Cheers.
Arnaud
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-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Buddy Howeth
Sent: mercredi 17 juin 2009 15:50
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Backing up running VM's
You don't need a license for each VM if you use a proxy.
Buddy Howeth
Computer Operations Specialist
Information Systems
Pacific Coast Producers
Corporate Offices
631 N. Cluff Ave
Lodi, CA 95240-0756
(209) 367-8800 - Main#
(209) 367-6288 - Computer Room
(209) 366-6240 - Alpha Pager
"Tchuise, Bertaut" <BTchuise AT LMUS.LEGGMASON DOT COM> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
06/17/2009 06:24 AM
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Eric,
TSM does backup running VMs; for TSM versions prior to 5.5, you had to backup
each individual VM just like you would backup physical servers (this meant
getting a TSM license for each and every VM instance). TSM
V5.5 goes a step further and makes use of the VM Consolidated backup
(VCB) to accommodate the backup of VMs (it works well!!!); with the VCB,
depending on your setup, the need for multiple licenses is greatly reduced as
you make use of a proxy server to backup the VM.
Please refer to the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager V5.4 & 5.5 Technical Guide
- Chapter 24 for a detailed explanation of the VCB process & configuration.
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG247447/wwhelp/wwhimpl/js/html/wwh
elp.htm
Bertaut.
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From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Loon, EJ van - SPLXM
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:04 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Backing up running VM's
Hi TSM-ers!
Our windows department is looking at different backup products for backing up
their server.
They have two major problems with TSM. One I cannot solve: the TSM client
license is processor based, so quite expensive for the majority of small
servers. I think we all agree that the TSM client license should be capacity
based, but IBM aint listening here...
The other problem is that they state TSM cannot backup running VM's.
They now use a product called DPM to make snapshot copies of running VM's.
I'm not really familiar with Window server management, especially when it comes
to virtualization, but I know one thing: TSM is one of the leading, cutting
edge backup products, so I doubt TSM is not supporting this feature.
Does anybody know whether it is possible to make snapshot backups with TSM of
running VM's?
Thank you very much in advance for any reply!!!
Kind regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
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