Fortunately for us, our renewal hasn't gone up all that much.  So, I
don't think we're in any danger of dumping TSM as it stands.  

However, I try to not get married to any one product, that way the split
up isn't as expensive.  :-D

I haven't heard any pricing for the Avamar stuff, would you mind sharing
some round figures?

See Ya'
Howard


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of Schneider, John
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:39 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM
> 
> We are just finishing a Proof of Concept on Avamar, EMC's
deduplication
> offering.  We have not made the decision to purchase, but the testing
> went very well.
> 
> It is better than most deduplication appliances because it actually
has
> it's own backup client, so you can eliminate TSM licenses and shrink
> your TSM environment as you deploy it.  Along with Unix, Windows, and
> Linux clients, it has special clients for Oracle RMAN, SQL, Exchange,
> etc.
> 
> We do not have a goal to eliminate TSM entirely, but it is growing
> rapidly and Avamar will contain the growth with better efficiency than
> buying more regular disk and tape.
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> John D. Schneider
> Phone: 314-364-3150
> Cell: 314-750-8721
> Email:  John.Schneider AT Mercy DOT net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> Howard Coles
> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:06 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM
> 
> Look at Avamar from EMC.  I don't know how expensive it is, and it'll
> take a re-architecting of your Storage (from tape to Disk), but it's
> one
> of many.
> 
> See Ya'
> Howard
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
Behalf
> > Of Conway, Timothy
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:31 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: [ADSM-L] Alternatives to TSM
> >
> > IBM just doubled our maintenance, so we're getting rid of TSM
> wholesale
> > and rearchitecting all pending IBM purchases for other platforms.
> > I had made and won the case for keeping it as our solution despite
> the
> > expense, at the level we were at through 2007, but there's no
> > discussion
> > for this change.  I can't show an instantaneous doubling of the
value
> > derived.  An economic downturn is not the time to try to double your
> > margin on an existing product and customer base.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Tim Conway
> > Unix sysadmin, TSM admin
> > Swift & Company
> > 9705067998
> > timothy.conway AT jbssa DOT com
> >
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