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Re: [ADSM-L] Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data

2008-12-15 12:43:36
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data
From: Stephan Boldt <stephan.boldt+adsm-l AT GMAIL DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:41:32 +0100
Justino,

sounds like my robocopy suggestion. ...just that you use TSM instead of the
robocopy tool. ;-) I suppose this is the best solution if your boss told you
to do do the migration "the professional way" with TSM and not with some
free of charge tools. :-)

But you could use robocopy to check if there are any differences between the
filesystems left after restore. If the data is equal robocopy shouldn't find
any files to copy. Use robocopy's preview mode to check.

kind regards,
Stephan


2008/12/12 Costa, Justino <justino.costa AT logica DOT com>

> What about an incremental or asynchronous restore (or whatever we may
> want to call it)...
>
> The file space may have 2TB but how much of it is changing every day ?
> 5%, 10 %, 15% ?
>
> I Would try the following:
>
> 1) copy the dsm.opt file to the target machine
> 2) target machine only:
>        Issue a "dsmc restore /source_mount_point/ /target_mount_point/
> -subd=y
>        You can wait until it completes, even if it takes days because
> the production FS is yet on the source machine
> 3) target machine only:
>        Issue a dsmc restore /source_mount_point/ /target_mount_point/
> -subd=y -ifnewer
>        the "ifnewer" option will restore only the changed files
>        You can do this several times until you get a better picture of
> how much files and GB are changing per day.
>
> 4) Pick a day to shift and a timeout for the all operation
> 5) Source machine: stop the sharing service
> 6) Source Machine: final incr backup
> 7) Target machine: restore with if-newer option
> 8) "Go" or "No go"
> 8.a) If restore finishes before the time out, shift the service to the
> target machine
> 8.b) If timeout reached before restore completes, Start the service
> again on the source machine. Rethink.
>
>
> Does this makes sense ?
>
> Cheers,
> jmc
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of
> Huebner,Andy,FORT WORTH,IT
> Sent: sexta-feira, 12 de Dezembro de 2008 19:08
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data
>
> Again this is not a TSM solution, but we use an EMC product to duplicate
> disks.  As long as both disks are available to the system at the same
> time take a look at OpenMigrater if you have access to EMC software.  It
> does a block level copy while the system is up.  When it is done it
> keeps the drives synced until a reboot replaces the old drive with the
> new one.  We usually see about 20-30GB an hour.  We have done 10 million
> + file systems in just a few hours.
>
> Andy Huebner
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of
> Nicholas Rodolfich
> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:05 AM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data
>
> Well, it turns out that the client has no downtime for this system so I
> don't think the image thing is an option. Not to mention one of the
> admins installed the LVSA code through the GUI setup wizard the night
> before and chose to reboot later and the system crashed with a bugcheck
> for TSMLVSA.sys yesterday. IBM had multiple tickets where this had
> occurred at other customers in their database. We are waiting on a
> reasonable explanation from IBM but the client is not too comfortable
> with the image idea at this point and is looking to use their old Backup
> Exec system where they have been successful doing this in the past
> (SHAME! SHAME!). I suggested the robocopy method to them but it is their
> decision/data.
>
> Thanks for all of your help!! Your are a great bunch of folks!!
>
> Nicholas
>
>
>
> If you assume a file create rate of about 100,000/hour then you are
> looking at a 20 hour restore if all else goes well.  You might squeeze
> more file creates out of your new server, but who really knows?  If you
> assume a 200 GB/hour transfer rate and use image instead, you can cut
> the restore time in half. You can't improve the file create rate by
> using multiple streams.
> In fact, that actually reduces the rate.
>
> I'm still advocating the image route.
>
> Kelly Lipp
> CTO
> STORServer, Inc.
> 485-B Elkton Drive
> Colorado Springs, CO 80907
> 719-266-8777 x7105
> www.storserver.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf 
> Of
> Nicholas Rodolfich
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 3:08 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Best way to use TSM to move 2Tb of data
>
> It is ~2,000,000 individual files after hours.
>
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