ADSM-L

Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class

2007-12-04 22:19:55
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class
From: Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:53:46 -0700
Fred, I cannot give you a definitive to answer your question since I do
not know your shop, its policies, service level agreement, etc., For
example, it could be your shop policy that the INCLUDE *:\...\* is
deliberate to prevent users from overriding via dsm.opt settings.

Having said that: removing that INCLUDE would enable use of the
client-side option (I leave it to you to review the Q INCLEXCL output to
confirm there no other interfering settings). Whether you really want to
do that, I cannot say.

Another alternative is to make a new client option set for this user that
does not have the INCLUDE *:\...\*. Or set the node to not use any client
option set. Or configure a special node name for backing up just those
files.

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html

The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 11/29/2007
05:38:30 PM:

> So how does he get what he wants.  The option set is to set a
> management class for a number of clients.  The new management class
> applies to 1 of the 10.  Will setting the OVERRIDE=yes have the
> desired effect?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager on behalf of Andrew Raibeck
> Sent: Thu 11/29/2007 4:21 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class
>
>
>
> OK, the Q INCLEXCL output is what we're interested in.
>
> You read the Q INCLEXCL from the top down (opposite of the dsm.opt
file).
> Notice that all the dir excludes (EXCLUDE.DIR) are at the top, since
those
> are always filtered first, regardless of how they are positioned.
>
> So starting from the top down, I see this above the INCLUDE for the new
> management class:
>
> Include All       *\...\*                        Server
>
> So that's why the new INCLUDE is ineffective. There are a lot of other
> excluded files below that are probably getting backed up.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
> Level 3 Team Lead
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> http://www.ibm.
> com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 11/29/2007
> 03:00:42 PM:
>
> > There are no 'INCLUDE' lines in the option set other than the initial
> > one.
> >
> > This is the dsm.opt:
> >
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.*"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\EA DATA. SF"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IBMBIO.COM"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IBMDOS.COM"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\IO.SYS"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\config\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dhcp\...\*"
> > INCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dns\...\*"
> > INCLUDE.BACKUP "*:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\microsoft uam volume\...\*.*"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\EA DATA. SF"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IBMBIO.COM"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IBMDOS.COM"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\IO.SYS"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\config\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\Perflib*.dat"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dhcp\...\*"
> > INCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dns\...\*"
> > INCLUDE.ARCHIVE "*:\...\system32\dns\backup\...\*"
> > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\System Volume Information"
> > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\...\Temporary Internet Files"
> > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Recycled"
> > EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Recycler"
> > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget
Office\*"
> > LONGADMIN
> > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget
> > Office\*.*" LONGADMIN
> >
> > And the dsmc q inclexcl:
> >
> > *** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE ***
> > Mode Function  Pattern (match from top down)  Source File
> > ---- --------- ------------------------------ -----------------
> > Excl Directory *\winnt\system32\wins          Server
> > Excl Directory *\temp                         Server
> > Excl Directory *\Recycle*                     Server
> > Excl Directory *\I386                         Server
> > Excl Directory *\Program Files\Network Associates\VirusScan NT Server
> > Excl Directory C:\adsm.sys                    Operating System
> > Excl Directory *\Recycler                     dsm.opt
> > Excl Directory *\Recycled                     dsm.opt
> > Excl Directory *\...\Temporary Internet Files dsm.opt
> > Excl Directory *\System Volume Information    dsm.opt
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\system32\DTCLog\MsDTC.log Server
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\netlogon.chg           Server
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\debug\*.*              Server
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\debug\*                Server
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\csc\*.*                Server
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\csc\*                  Server
> > Exclude All       *\winnt\Registration\*.clb     Server
> > Exclude All       *\hibernate.dat                Server
> > Exclude All       *\hiberfil.sys                 Server
> > Exclude All       *\ffastun*.ff?                 Server
> > Exclude All       *\MSDOS.SYS                    Server
> > Exclude All       *\IO.SYS                       Server
> > Exclude All       *\IBMDOS.COM                   Server
> > Exclude All       *\IBMBIO.COM                   Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\pagefile.sys             Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\...\*    Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\*.*      Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\Cache\*.*                Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\Cache\*                  Server
> > Exclude All       *\*.crmlog                     Server
> > Exclude All       *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* Server
> > Exclude All       *\microsoft uam volume\...\*   Server
> > Exclude All       *\microsoft uam volume\*.*     Server
> > Exclude All       *\microsoft uam volume\*       Server
> > Exclude All       *\macintosh volume\...\*.*     Server
> > Exclude All       *\macintosh volume\...\*       Server
> > Exclude All       *\macintosh volume\*.*         Server
> > Exclude All       *\macintosh volume\*           Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and setting\...\index.dat Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat.log Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and Settings\...\ntuser.dat Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\*.*
> > Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and Settings\...\Local Settings\temp\*
> > Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and Settings\...\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat.log Server
> > Exclude All       *\Documents and Settings\...\Local
> > Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows\UsrClass.dat Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\Temporary Internet Files\*.* Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\Temporary Internet Files\* Server
> > Exclude All       *\...\EA DATA. SF              Server
> > Include All       *\...\*                        Server
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\usrclass.dat.log    Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\usrclass.dat        Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\Tasks\schedlgu.txt  Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM\Repository\...\*.*
Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\NtmsData\...\* Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSDtc\trace\dtctrace.log
Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSDTC\MSDTC.LOG Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\metabase.xml Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\metabase.bin Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\inetsrv\mbschema.xml Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\dns\dns.log Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\dns\backup\dns.log Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.log Operating
System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system.alt Operating
System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\system Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software.log Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\software Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\security.log Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\security Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\sam.log Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\sam Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default.log Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\system32\config\default Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\System32\CatRoot2\...\* Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\...\* Operating
System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\SysEvent.Evt Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\SecEvent.Evt Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\NtFrs.Evt Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\NTDS.Evt Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\DnsEvent.Evt Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\ServiceState\EventLogs\AppEvent.Evt Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\system Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\software
Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\SECURITY
Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\SAM Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> > C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\Registry\default
Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All
> >
C:\WINDOWS\Repair\Backup\BootableSystemState\ComRegistrationDatabase\...
> > \* Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\repair\asr.log      Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\repair\asr.err      Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\Registration\*.clb  Operating System
> > Exclude All       c:\windows\ntfrs\jet\...\*     Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\NTDS\*              Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\NTDS*               Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\netlogon.chg        Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\debug\NtFrs\NtFrs*  Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\debug\*             Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\WINDOWS\csc\...\*           Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\DOCUME~1\JOSHKN~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\1\...\* Operating
> > System
> > Exclude All       C:\Documents and Settings\joshknorr\...\index.dat
> > Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\DRM\...\*
> > Operating System
> > Exclude All       C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
> > Data\Microsoft\Network\Downloader\* Operating System
> > Exclude All       *\System Volume
> > Information\MountPointManagerRemoteDatabase Operating System
> > Exclude All       *\System Volume
> > Information\...\*{3808876B-C176-4e48-B7AE-04046E6CC752} Operating
System
> > Exclude All       *\System Volume
> > Information\*.{7cc467ef-6865-4831-853f-2a4817fd1bca}DB Operating
System
> > Exclude All       *\System Volume
> > Information\*.{7cc467ef-6865-4831-853f-2a4817fd1bca}ALT Operating
System
> > Exclude All       *\Pagefile.sys                 Operating System
> > Exclude All       *\hiberfil.sys                 Operating System
> > Exclude All       *\...\*.crmlog                 Operating System
> > Include All       f:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University
Administration\Budget
> > Office\* dsm.opt
> > Include Archive   *\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\...\system32\dns\...\*       dsm.opt
> > Include Archive   *\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\...\system32\dhcp\...\*      dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\...\system32\Perflib*.dat    dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\...\system32\config\...\*    dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\IO.SYS                       dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\IBMDOS.COM                   dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\IBMBIO.COM                   dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\...\EA DATA. SF              dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* dsm.opt
> > Exclude Archive   *\microsoft uam volume\...\*   dsm.opt
> > Include Backup    *\...\system32\dns\backup\...\* dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\...\system32\dns\...\*       dsm.opt
> > Include Backup    *\...\system32\dhcp\backup\...\* dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\...\system32\dhcp\...\*      dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\...\system32\Perflib*.dat    dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\...\system32\config\...\*    dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\IO.SYS                       dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\IBMDOS.COM                   dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\IBMBIO.COM                   dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\...\EA DATA. SF              dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\microsoft uam volume\...\*.* dsm.opt
> > Exclude Backup    *\microsoft uam volume\...\*   dsm.opt
> > No DFS include/exclude statements defined.
> >
> > Fred Johanson
> > TSM Administrator
> > University of Chicago
> >
> > 773-702-8464
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf
Of
> > Andrew Raibeck
> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 3:48 PM
> > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class
> >
> > Yes, but it's not position in the dsm.opt file that matters when
client
> > option sets are at issue. Use "dsmc query inclexcl" to see the final
> > list
> > that TSM actually uses.
> >
> > I suspect it is that client option set that is overriding the dsm.opt
> > file.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Andy Raibeck
> > IBM Software Group
> > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
> > Level 3 Team Lead
> > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> > Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
> >
> > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> >
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan
> > ager.html
> >
> > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> > The command line is your friend.
> > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
> >
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 11/29/2007
> > 02:41:26 PM:
> >
> > > Andy,
> > >
> > > His additions are at the bottom of his dsm.opt file.  There is also
a
> > > client optionset that has:
> > >
> > > Include ?:* FILESERVER
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Fred Johanson
> > > TSM Administrator
> > > University of Chicago
> > >
> > > 773-702-8464
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On
Behalf
> > Of
> > > Andrew Raibeck
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 2:29 PM
> > > To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] INCLUDE for new management class
> > >
> > > Nothing wrong per se, although the second INCLUDE appears redundant.
> > >
> > > The first place to start with these kinds of issues is to use "dsmc
> > > query
> > > inclexcl" to makes sure those files aren't being picked up by an
> > earlier
> > > filter.
> > >
> > > Also make sure the updated policy was activated.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > Andy Raibeck
> > > IBM Software Group
> > > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
> > > Level 3 Team Lead
> > > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> > > Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
> > >
> > > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> > >
> >
http://www.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageMan
> > > ager.html
> > >
> > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> > > The command line is your friend.
> > > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
> > >
> > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 
> > > 11/29/2007
> > > 01:23:35 PM:
> > >
> > > > Our desktop support unit has a user that wants a new retention
> > policy
> > > on
> > > > their file share.  The admin added this to the dsm.opt:
> > > >
> > > > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget
> > > Office\*"
> > > > LONGADMIN
> > > > INCLUDE "F:\NSIT\FieldSupport\University Administration\Budget
> > > > Office\*.*" LONGADMIN
> > > >
> > > > I can't see anything syntactically wrong, but it does not work.
> > He's
> > > > also tried 'f:...' with no effect.  He says that he's restarted
the
> > > > service after each change.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone see his error?
> > > >
> > > > Fred Johanson
> > > > TSM Administrator
> > > > University of Chicago
> > > >
> > > > 773-702-8464