In my case that would involve moving all the files to be archived to a
different server and backup the server en-masse. Not out of the question but
also not something I relish.
Maybe I should just use Veritas!
-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
CAYE PIERRE
Sent: 22 October 2007 14:12
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries
May I suggest something ?
I had to deal with a problem like that, involving externalization of datas, for
legal archiving.
I made a specific node, specific mgmt class and archive datas like that, then
export node to deal with externalization of cartridges.
I keep node definition but I had deleted filespaces under it and freed db space
like that.
Data's are on export cartridge. It is easy to retrieve it with an "import node
dates=relative".
Regards,
Pierre
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] De
> la part de Angus Macdonald
> Envoyé : lundi 22 octobre 2007 15:02
> À : ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Objet : Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries
>
> That's the plan. I have an archiving storage pool setup and
> ready, although not a separate management class. The bit I'm
> working on is getting the existing backups of the files I'm
> archiving, out of the existing main storage pool. I can then
> reclaim the main storage pool tapes and regain a lot of library space.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On
> Behalf Of Larry Clark
> Sent: 22 October 2007 13:49
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries
>
>
> Have you considered creating a separate managment class with
> its own archive pool, archive/deleteing your files to that,
> then checking out those volumes and storing them on a shelf someplace?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angus Macdonald" <Angus.Macdonald AT NWW-TR.WALES.NHS DOT UK>
> To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries
>
>
> I may not be describing it very well ;-)
>
> I have lots of old, unaccessed files that need to be retained
> indefinitely.
> To free up library space I want to archive them to tape and
> delete from the
> fileservers. It would be nice if I could remove the Tivoli
> database entries
> for these files to free up the library sooner rather than later.
>
> I know how to select and archive only those files with a last
> accessed date
> earlier than some arbitrary date in the past. I was interested in the
> possibility of expiring only those files and not others from Tivoli
> afterwards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On
> Behalf Of
> Richard Sims
> Sent: 22 October 2007 12:34
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries
>
>
> On Oct 22, 2007, at 5:27 AM, Angus Macdonald wrote:
>
> > ...
> > The next query is expiration. Ideally, I'd like to immediately
> > expire the files which have been archived, to free up library
> > space. I currently retain 3 versions up to 100 days and the final
> > version up to 365 days. I can set all of those values temporarily
> > nice and low but as I understand it, the database objects are only
> > finally removed by the EXPIRE INVENTORY process at the server end.
> > This would presumably remove all old versions, not just those I
> > have archived.
> >
> > Is there a way around this, am I simply wrong, or will I just have
> > to wait for the normal expiration process timeout?
>
> I think we're all puzzled as to why you would have bothered archiving
> files which you could have simply deleted from the file system, to
> achieve the same effect?
>
> You need to dig into the B/A client manual, the chapter "Archiving
> and retrieving your data", which describes all the aspects and
> factors of file archiving - including deleting archive data. You
> need a solid grounding in the area that you are pursuing, in order to
> make best use of it. Going at it piecemeal is not a good approach
> when dealing with data retention regimens.
>
> Richard Sims http://people.bu.edu/rbs
>
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