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Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries

2007-10-22 07:34:37
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries
From: Angus Macdonald <Angus.Macdonald AT NWW-TR.WALES.NHS DOT UK>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:33:52 +0100
Yes, library space is threatening to become an issue in the near future so I 
want to do some housekeeping. I already run a fairly agressive reclamation 
scheme so there aren't any underused tapes around.

If I drop my retention values to 0, say, and run EXPIRE INVENTORY, I'm guessing 
I'll expire my archived files plus old versions of current, unarchived files. 
That's not something that'll make me popular! I'm not that short of library 
space at the moment so perhaps I'll just archive anything that hasn't been 
accessed in the last couple of years and wait for the database to catch up.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
Larry Clark
Sent: 22 October 2007 12:16
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries


You can execute an expire inventory at anytime................

It sounds like you are in a pinch for library space. Maybe the better thing 
to obtain space in the tape library more quickly would be to see how many 
volumes would be freed if you dropped your reclamation value on the storage 
pool(s) that occupy the library. Those would be triggered immediately.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angus Macdonald" <Angus.Macdonald AT NWW-TR.WALES.NHS DOT UK>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries


Right, I think I have the archiving process clear in my own mind now. I may 
be wrong but that's purely my own fault ;-)

The next query is expiration. Ideally, I'd like to immediately expire the 
files which have been archived, to free up library space. I currently retain 
3 versions up to 100 days and the final version up to 365 days. I can set 
all of those values temporarily nice and low but as I understand it, the 
database objects are only finally removed by the EXPIRE INVENTORY process at 
the server end. This would presumably remove all old versions, not just 
those I have archived.

Is there a way around this, am I simply wrong, or will I just have to wait 
for the normal expiration process timeout?

Thanks again
Angus


-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
Larry Clark
Sent: 19 October 2007 11:59
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries


Yes, if you use the -deletefiles=yes, they will be removed from the client
when you run the archive.
Then on the next backup, TSM will update its database entries the same as if
you simply deleted the files without an archive.
Then on the next expire inventory, your backup rules will be applied.
They will be expired from the backup primary and copypool pools per your
rules.

You might want to check your defs on your (default or explicit management
class you select for the archives) archive pool to verify how long your
files will be retained once archived.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angus Macdonald" <Angus.Macdonald AT NWW-TR.WALES.NHS DOT UK>
To: <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Archiving basic queries


Thanks for that. Makes it a lot clearer.

So, if I  create a filelist of files I want to archive and archive them with
the -deletefiles option, they will be gone from the source, correct? If I
then run an expire with the same filelist, the files will be expired from
the Tivoli primary storage pools but not the archive, thereby freeing up
library space (once the archive tapes are safely removed), also correct? I
hope so - the job might actually be fairly simple that way!

Thanks again
Angus


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