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Re: [ADSM-L] Licensing question

2007-09-26 16:39:55
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Licensing question
From: Ben Bullock <bbullock AT MICRON DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:37:35 -0600
Ya, we were looking at perhaps purchasing a bunch of licenses to convert
a site from Veritas Netbackup to TSM and the number is shocking. Ours
come in somewhere a little above $2000 per host on average.

Here is the basic CPU configuration of these 291 server-class machines.

MFG     Server  CPU     CPU Cores       Platform        Number of hosts.
HP      DL360           2       4               Linux           23
HP      DL360           2       4               Windows 116
HP      DL380           2       4               Linux           3
HP      DL380           2       4               Windows 21
HP      DL385           2       4               Linux           3
HP      DL385           2       4               Windows 4
HP      DL585           4       8               Linux           8
HP      DL585           4       8               VMWare ESX      6
HP      DL585           4       8               Windows 33
SUN     T2000           1       4               UNIX            8
SUN     V125            1       1               UNIX            3
SUN     V245            2       2               UNIX            42
SUN     V445            4       4               UNIX            3
SUN     V490            4       4               UNIX            7
SUN     X4600           8       8               Windows 11
                                                                291

Because most of them are high end machines with multiple CPUs and
multiple cores, the TSM "Value" licensing is eating us alive. Even after
our corporate discount it will be $600,000+ for the TSM licenses and the
first 12 months of maintenance.

A backup software licensing scheme based on CPU and core count is
RETARDED. Some of these are just compute hosts with just the OS being
backed up, but we have to pay a VERY large fee because it has a lot of
CPU horsepower.

Needless to say they are freaked out that it will cost more than half a
million just for the software. They are pursuing quotes from other
vendors and Tivoli will likely not get this business.



-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of
Gill, Geoffrey L.
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 2:12 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Licensing question

> Yesterday my IBM rep sent me a quote for the new licenses and I was
quite >shocked at the total. For 13 servers the total price was almost
39 thousand >dollars. This is just the license to back the server up.
That works out to >about 3,000 per server. Does this seem right? Is this
about what everyone >else is paying? It just seems awfully high for a
client backup license...

Did you use the IBM link to get the value units yourself Mark? At least
this way you can ask a few folks for a quote.

https://www-112.ibm.com/software/howtobuy/passportadvantage/valueunitcal
culator/vucalc.wss?jadeAction=EXPERT_ARCHITECTURE

 
Geoff Gill
TSM Administrator
PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator
SAIC M/S-G1b
(858)826-4062
Email: geoffrey.l.gill AT saic DOT com 

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