Hi Kyle,
> From the very first e-mail on this thread Wanda asked if why when
> she added a UNC to the domain stamtement why it didn't show up in
> the GUI. You said yes that looks like a bug.
She was referring to the *preferences editor*, specifically the BACKUP tab
where the domain list is pre-filled with available file systems that you
an add to the list. She was saying that TSM otherwise treats the share as
a valid domain object, so why doesn't it show up as a selectable item from
the Backup tab's list of available file system objects.
And I agreed, saying that the absence of this object seemed like a bug.
And by extension, I would also expect to see such a share show up in the
Network part of the GUI's backup window, but yes, *that* specifically has
nothing at all to do with domain.
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU> wrote on 2005-11-18
16:41:16:
> No *WAIT*.
>
> I'm not drawing any conclusions to anything.
>
> From the very first e-mail on this thread Wanda asked if why when
> she added a UNC to the domain stamtement why it didn't show up in
> the GUI. You said yes that looks like a bug.
>
> I disagree. I don't think it is a bug. I think that putting
> something in the domain statement *DOES NOT* make it show up in the GUI.
>
> Sorry if my explanation wasn't clear. Now if I'm wrong and it
> should then let me know that.
>
> Kyle
>
>
> Andrew Raibeck <storman AT US.IBM DOT COM> wrote:
> Hi Kyle,
>
> > Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in
> > the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make
> > sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client ....
>
> I think that you are attempting to establish a functional relationship,
> between DOMAIN and the Backup portion of the GUI interface, that just
does
> not exist.
>
> It *is* the purpose of the DOMAIN option to establish a *default* list
of
> file systems to be processed by an *incremental* backup operation.
>
> It is *not* the purpose of DOMAIN to prevent you from backing up files
on
> file systems that are not part of the domain.
>
> To draw a parallel to the commandline, the scenario you describe is akin
> to setting up your DOMAIN option like this:
>
> domain all-local -d:
>
> and then *disallowing* the following (for example):
>
> dsmc incremental d:
> or
> dsmc selective d:\mydir\ -subdir=yes
>
> This is just not how TSM works, or was ever intended to work. In other
> words, DOMAIN was never intended to prevent you from backing up files on
> non-DOMAIN file systems. Rather, DOMAIN is used to specify which file
> systems are processed by default when you perform an incremental
> operation.
>
> Having said that, if you want domain behavior from the GUI for
incremental
> backup operations, then do the following:
>
> 1) start dsm
> 2) Select the "Action/Backup Domain" menu option
>
> The backup part of the GUI allows you to pick and choose objects to back
> up, just as you can use the "dsmc incremental" or "dsmc selective"
> commands to pick and choose objects for backup. Whether from command
line
> or GUI, there is no relationship between DOMAIN and the objects on which
> you can operate by explicitly picking and choosing from the GUI or from
> listing the objects in a SELECTIVE or INCREMENTAL operation.
>
> I think what you are thinking of is the EXCLUDE.FS option available on
> Unix clients, which prevents backup of excluded file systems.
>
> I hope this clarifies things.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
> Andy Raibeck
> IBM Software Group
> Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
>
> IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> http://www-306.ibm.
> com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
>
> The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> The command line is your friend.
> "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-17
> 19:03:52:
>
> > Andy, Sorry my point was that while the domain statment in the dsm.
> > opt file does effect what is backed up from a command line and
> > scheduler standpoint it does not effect what you see in the GUI and
> > where you see it in the GUI.
> >
> > I ran a number of tests. Every time a mapped drive shows up in
> > the GUI under Network even when it is not in the dsm.opt file.
> > Every time a UNC never shows up under the GUI when it is in the dsm.
> > opt file. I think it has always been this way.
> >
> > Now if you think it is a bug then I'd be happy to see things in
> > the GUI based on the domain statement. So I could put -C: to make
> > sure the C:\ doesn't show up in the GUI and web client or
> > \\Server\SHARE so that it does show up in the GUI and web client.
> >
> > Again, where the mapped drives show up isn't an issue at all to
> > me. It makes complete sense that they would show up under Network.
> >
> > Andrew Raibeck wrote:
> > Hi Kyle,
> >
> > If the drive letter maps to a network resource, then it makes sense to
> > have it show up under network, whether it's in the domain or not.
> >
> > I think if it is a valid resource to back up at the domain level, it
> > should appear in the GUI. The command line client and the scheduler
> > certainly recognize it when it's in the DOMAIN list.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Andy Raibeck
> > IBM Software Group
> > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> > Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
> >
> > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> > http://www-306.ibm.
> > com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
> >
> > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> > The command line is your friend.
> > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
> >
> >
> >
> > TSM_User
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> > 2005-11-15 16:16
> > Please respond to
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
> >
> >
> > To
> > ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Re: TSM Win client DOMAIN statement and unc names
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Andy are you sure? I don't remember seeing UNC paths that have been
> added
> > to a dsm.opt show up in the GUI ever. I'm wondering if the F: drive
> shows
> > up in Wanda's case because it is mapped and all mapped drives show up
> > under Network in the GUI. I just mapped a drive without ever putting
> > anything in the dsm.opt and I see it under Network. Further I added it
> to
> > the dsm.opt and that didn't change the fact that it only showed up
under
> > Network.
> >
> > What I'm asking is do you really think adding something to the domain
> > statement, drive letter or UNC, will really have an effect on the GUI?
> >
> > I'm running the V5.2.3 client on WinXP
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > Andrew Raibeck wrote:
> > Hi Wanda, I would call this a bug.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > Andy Raibeck
> > IBM Software Group
> > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
> > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
> > Internet e-mail: storman AT us.ibm DOT com
> >
> > IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
> > http://www-306.ibm.
> > com/software/sysmgmt/products/support/IBMTivoliStorageManager.html
> >
> >
> > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
> > The command line is your friend.
> > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
> >
> > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" wrote on 2005-11-15
> > 15:03:08:
> >
> > > I'm confused:
> > > TSM client 5.3.x on Win2K:
> > >
> > > If I map a network drive as drive F: and add it to my dsm.opt file
> this
> > way:
> > >
> > > DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL F:
> > >
> > > Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up
> F:just
> > fine.
> > > When I open the GUI client and do edit-> preferences -> Backup, I
> > > can see F: is in the domain list, and I can select it for backup.
> > >
> > >
> > > If I DON"T map a drive letter, but I add that same drive to my dsm.
> > > opt file this way:
> > >
> > > DOMAIN ALL-LOCAL \\host\d$
> > >
> > > Assuming I have the right permissions, the scheduler will back up
> > > this drive just fine.
> > > But when I open the GUI client and do edit -> preferences -> backup,
> > > it isn't in the domain list, and I can't select it from the GUI.
> > >
> > > Is this WAD? I found in the doc where the unc name is allowed in
> > > dsm.opt, but can't find an explanation of the difference in the
> > > scheduler and GUI behavior?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Wanda Prather
> > > "* I/O, I/O, It's all about I/O *" -(me)
> >
> >
> >
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