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Topics of the day:
1. expiring deleted versions (2)
2. Can't send report via e-mail
3. Was: expiring deleted versions (2)
4. Backup W2003 slow (2)
5. Programmes Guide (3)
6. del volhist
7. Antwort: Re: Programmes Guide (4)
8. Exchange backup (3)
9. Compatibility LTO2/LTO3 (4)
10. Netware cluster logfile path issue
11. IMPORT NODE - now having problems restoring data - authentication
problems?
12. Suad Musovich/New Zealand/IBM away until Monday 18th April
13. storage management/tools (2)
14. TSM Scheduled Job kills LPR Printing.
15. Schedule on TSM 5.3
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:49:38 +0300
From: "Tuncel Mutlu (B.T.S.Y.G.)"
Subject: expiring deleted versions
Hi,=20
I have un urgent one.=20
TSM 5.2.0, server on Win2000, client on Win2000.
I have a management class backup which should retain files for 5 years =
even if they are deleted.
These are the settings
Policy Domain Name WINNTPD=20
Policy Set Name ACTIVE=20
Mgmt Class Name MC_5YIL=20
Copy Group Name STANDARD=20
Versions Data Exists NOLIMIT=20
Versions Data Deleted NOLIMIT=20
Retain Extra Versions 1825=20
Retain Only Version 1825=20
Copy Mode MODIFIED=20
Copy Serialization SHRDYNAMIC=20
Copy Frequency 0=20
Copy Destination BACKUPPOOL2=20
But today I see 350,000 files expire and the admin of the box says me =
that he has deleted the files because they are kept in TSM for 5 years.
How is that possible, why did the files expire ?
Thanks,
Tuncel Mutlu
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Bu e-posta ve muhtemel eklerinde verilen bilgiler ki=FEiye =F6zel ve =
gizli olup, yaln=FDzca mesajda belirlenen al=FDc=FD ile ilgilidir.Size =
yanl=FD=FEl=FDkla ula=FEm=FD=FEsa l=FCtfen g=F6ndericiye bilgi veriniz, =
mesaj=FD siliniz ve i=E7eri=F0ini ba=FEka bir ki=FEiye =
a=E7=FDklamay=FDn=FDz, herhangi bir ortama kopyalamay=FDn=FDz. Bu mesaj =
aksi s=F6zle=FEme ile belirtilmedik=E7e herhangi bir finansal i=FElem =
teklifi, al=FDm=FD, sat=FDm=FD veya herhangi bir havalenin teyidi gibi =
bankac=FDl=FDk i=FElemi yap=FDlmas=FD amac=FDn=FD =
ta=FE=FDmamaktad=FDr.Verilen t=FCm bilgilerin do=F0rulu=F0u ve =
b=FCt=FCnl=FC=F0=FCn=FCn garantisi verilmemekte olup, =F6nceden =
bildirilmeksizin de=F0i=FEtirilebilecektir.Bu mesaj=FDn i=E7eri=F0i =
Bankam=FDz=FDn resmi g=F6r=FC=FElerini yans=FDtmayabilece=F0inden Akbank =
T.A.=DE. hi=E7bir hukuki sorumlulu=F0u kabul etmez.
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:21:52 +0700
From: nghiatd
Subject: Can't send report via e-mail
Hi all,
I setuped TSM ver 5.3 and try to send the report via email, I receive =
message :
"Error-Could not obtain e-mail sender information. Right click on Tivoli =
Storage Manager and choose Operational Reporting to update the e-mail =
sender information"
I do following that guide but I don't see where to update e-mail sender, =
only has email recipient.
In addition, I don't see "Register Licenses" in Wizard like as TSM ver =
5.2.
Pls help me to fix it,
Nghiatd
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 11:17:50 +0300
From: "Tuncel Mutlu (B.T.S.Y.G.)"
Subject: Was: expiring deleted versions
Oooops,=20
Here is the client scheduler log file:
...(cut)...
04/14/2005 02:17:07 ANS1898I ***** Processed 1,874,500 files *****
04/14/2005 02:17:08 ANS1898I ***** Processed 1,875,000 files *****
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 8,192 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\418.DV [Sent] =20
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 560,128 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\419.DS [Sent] =20
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 8,192 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\419.DV [Sent] =20
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 620,032 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\420.DS [Sent] =20
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 8,704 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\420.DV [Sent] =20
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 580,608 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\421.DS [Sent] =20
04/14/2005 02:17:08 Expiring--> 8,192 =
\\sa000214\h$\ArchivedData1\0420\3ESW\M342\421.DV [Sent] =20
...(cut)...
04/14/2005 03:23:56 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS BEGIN
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects inspected: 2,662,265
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects backed up: 8,121
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects updated: 0
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects rebound: 0
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects deleted: 0
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects expired: 350,736
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of objects failed: 0
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Total number of bytes transferred: 2.14 GB
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Data transfer time: 455.26 sec
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Network data transfer rate: 4,951.34 KB/sec
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Aggregate data transfer rate: 216.95 KB/sec
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Objects compressed by: 0%
04/14/2005 03:23:56 Elapsed processing time: 02:53:10
04/14/2005 03:23:56 --- SCHEDULEREC STATUS END
And here is the server actlog about todays expire process:
04/14/2005 06:52:01 ANR0812I Inventory file expiration process 793 =
completed:=20
examined 67359 objects, deleting 67185 backup =
objects, 0=20
archive objects, 0 DB backup volumes, and 0 =
recovery plan
files. 0 errors were encountered. =
=20
So there are 67000 objects expired (quite normal for the number of =
clients 20-25) and as I can see from the volumes, there is no reduction =
in 5 years backup volumes sizes, all full 100%. So the files have not =
expired, which is good. But what is the 350,000 number in client =
scheduler log ? And can it fill my server recovery log ? Because thats =
how I get to the issue, the server recovery log was filled up.
Thanks,
Tuncel Mutlu
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Bu e-posta ve muhtemel eklerinde verilen bilgiler ki=FEiye =F6zel ve =
gizli olup, yaln=FDzca mesajda belirlenen al=FDc=FD ile ilgilidir.Size =
yanl=FD=FEl=FDkla ula=FEm=FD=FEsa l=FCtfen g=F6ndericiye bilgi veriniz, =
mesaj=FD siliniz ve i=E7eri=F0ini ba=FEka bir ki=FEiye =
a=E7=FDklamay=FDn=FDz, herhangi bir ortama kopyalamay=FDn=FDz. Bu mesaj =
aksi s=F6zle=FEme ile belirtilmedik=E7e herhangi bir finansal i=FElem =
teklifi, al=FDm=FD, sat=FDm=FD veya herhangi bir havalenin teyidi gibi =
bankac=FDl=FDk i=FElemi yap=FDlmas=FD amac=FDn=FD =
ta=FE=FDmamaktad=FDr.Verilen t=FCm bilgilerin do=F0rulu=F0u ve =
b=FCt=FCnl=FC=F0=FCn=FCn garantisi verilmemekte olup, =F6nceden =
bildirilmeksizin de=F0i=FEtirilebilecektir.Bu mesaj=FDn i=E7eri=F0i =
Bankam=FDz=FDn resmi g=F6r=FC=FElerini yans=FDtmayabilece=F0inden Akbank =
T.A.=DE. hi=E7bir hukuki sorumlulu=F0u kabul etmez.
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:27:07 +0200
From: Wolfram.May AT LINDE-KCA DOT COM
Subject: Backup W2003 slow
Hi all,
backup from a W2003-Server is very slow, when I use a scheduled backup.
Backup via CLI works with normaly and high speed ( and over batchfile ).
What is the reason ?
Thanks
Wolfram
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 06:22:35 -0500
From: "Stapleton, Mark"
Subject: Re: expiring deleted versions
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On=20
Behalf Of Tuncel Mutlu (B.T.S.Y.G.)
>I have a management class backup which should retain files for=20
>5 years even if they are deleted.
>
>Policy Domain Name WINNTPD=20
>Policy Set Name ACTIVE=20
>Mgmt Class Name MC_5YIL=20
>Copy Group Name STANDARD=20
>Versions Data Exists NOLIMIT=20
>Versions Data Deleted NOLIMIT=20
>Retain Extra Versions 1825=20
>Retain Only Version 1825=20
>Copy Mode MODIFIED=20
>Copy Serialization SHRDYNAMIC=20
>Copy Frequency 0=20
>Copy Destination BACKUPPOOL2=20
>
>But today I see 350,000 files expire and the admin of the box=20
>says me that he has deleted the files because they are kept in=20
>TSM for 5 years.
>
>How is that possible, why did the files expire ?
You misunderstand how TSM uses retention rules. When you delete a file
from a TSM client, the file goes to inactive status during the next
backup. When you go to inactive status, you go from NOLIMIT number of
copies to 1825. Thus the expiration.
If you want to be able to delete files and still keep copies of them
within TSM, you need to run an archive, not a backup.
--
Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005
Office 262.521.5627 =20
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 07:56:43 -0400
From: Richard Sims
Subject: Re: Was: expiring deleted versions
On Apr 14, 2005, at 4:17 AM, Tuncel Mutlu (B.T.S.Y.G.) wrote:
> ...
> So there are 67000 objects expired (quite normal for the number of
> clients 20-25) and as I can see from the volumes, there is no
> reduction in 5 years backup volumes sizes, all full 100%. So the files
> have not expired, which is good. But what is the 350,000 number in
> client scheduler log ? And can it fill my server recovery log ?
> Because thats how I get to the issue, the server recovery log was
> filled up.
The Windows client manual says:
"Expiring--> Indicates an object (file or directory) on the server that
no
longer exists on the client is expired and made inactive
on the server."
As you say, the client people removed all those files from the client
file system (perhaps without very good reason). Have them perform 'dsmc
Query Backup -INActive ...' to see what remains in TSM storage.
Yes, Expiration can fill your Recovery Log: the TSM server needs to be
sized to accommodate all expected activities in order to maintain
functionality.
Richard Sims
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:07:47 +0200
From: Karin Dambacher
Subject: Programmes Guide
Hi all,
does anyone know, where to find online (the) a TSM programmer's guide?
Is there a possiblity to get a list of tapes, where are a client's data ?
Not all tapes (I know this select), but if I want to do a "restore
c:\home" only the tapes I need for that restore?
Thanks for every help, regards, Karin Dambacher
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:09:30 -0400
From: Richard Sims
Subject: Re: Backup W2003 slow
On Apr 14, 2005, at 4:27 AM, Wolfram.May AT LINDE-KCA DOT COM wrote:
> backup from a W2003-Server is very slow, when I use a scheduled backup.
> Backup via CLI works with normaly and high speed ( and over batchfile
> ).
>
> What is the reason ?
Without details, we can only generally advise you on this...
The two obvious differences would be time of day (where you probably
tried the comparative CLI type backup during the day, whereas scheduled
backups probably run overnight) and that scheduled backups include
PRESchedulecmd and POSTSchedulecmd involvement. Time of day may make a
big difference in what else is running in that system, which can at
times make for a lot of contention for file access, as seen in backup
log Retries. It may also be that certain sets of files see updating at
a certain time of day, where they would be backup candidates only then.
Compare the contents of your two backup logs. The configuration of your
TSM server is also a substantial factor, where over-demand for tape
drives at peak period can cause some clients to wait for resources, for
example.
Beyond that, see the "Backup performance" topic in
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts for factors we have communally
experienced. If you still need input, post again, providing salient
details (hardware info, service pack level, TSM software levels,
particulars from the backups, etc.
Richard Sims
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:18:27 +0200
From: Henrik Wahlstedt
Subject: Re: Programmes Guide
No and no.
The closest you can get is something like this:
"select distinct node_name, volume_name, copy_type, stgpool_name from
volumeusage where node_name='X' and filespace_name='Y'"
Add "and volume_name not in(select volume_name from libvolumes)" and use
copy_type and stgpool_name to narrow your results if you like.
//Henrik
Karin Dambacher
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Hi all,
does anyone know, where to find online (the) a TSM programmer's guide?
Is there a possiblity to get a list of tapes, where are a client's data ?
Not all tapes (I know this select), but if I want to do a "restore
c:\home" only the tapes I need for that restore?
Thanks for every help, regards, Karin Dambacher
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:17:56 -0400
From: Richard Sims
Subject: Re: Programmes Guide
On Apr 14, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Karin Dambacher wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> does anyone know, where to find online (the) a TSM programmer's guide?
> Is there a possiblity to get a list of tapes, where are a client's
> data ?
> Not all tapes (I know this select), but if I want to do a "restore
> c:\home" only the tapes I need for that restore?
An often asked question... See "Restoral preview" in
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts . The essential answer is
that there is no way to get a list of the tapes needed for a given
restoral, partly because restoral candidates determination can be so
complex (read up on No Query Restore vs. Standard Restore to appreciate
the complexities), and largely because the running of enterprise level
facilities means that all resources are always available such that you
as a human don't need to know what tapes are needed: the enterprise
software and hardware takes care of all that for us meager humans.
You need to tell us more about what you need in terms of a
"programmer's guide". There isn't one, per se, for TSM in general -
only for the API - in that there's no user programming generally
involved in TSM. The product provides various information gathering
facilities (queries, SQL select, and ODBC) which usually suffice.
Richard Sims
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 08:38:08 -0400
From: David E Ehresman
Subject: Re: del volhist
Is there something other than 'del volhist' that trims the volhist file? =
The oldest entries in my volhist are 30 days but if I search actlog I =
don't find any sign that a 'del volhist' command was run.
>>> mark.stapleton AT BERBEE DOT COM 04/13/05 9:31 AM >>>
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On=20
Behalf Of David E Ehresman
>If one uses DRM to expire data base backups, should one still routinely
>do a "del volhist type=3Dall today=3D"? Why or why not?
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On=20
Behalf Of Talafous, John
>Using the "del volhist" command in conjunction with DRM may potentially
>cause deletion of DB backup tapes that are vaulted. Hence, TSM DRM will
>not process the volume via vault retrieve.=20
>
>If you do both, be sure your "DRM DB Backup Series Expiration Days"
>value in DRM is less than the TODate value of the "del=20
>volhist" command.
>
>For example, DRM DB Backup Series Expiration Days =3D 7
>"Del volhist todate=3Dtoday-30"
Well, there *are* reasons to run DEL VOLHISTORY periodically, in order
to keep really old volume history entries from piling up in the TSM
database. I normally have customers run something like this:
del volh type=3Ddbb todate=3Dtoday-180
del volh type=3Ddbs todate=3Dtoday-180
del volh type=3Dstgdelete todate=3Dtoday-180
del volh type=3Dstgnew todate=3Dtoday-180
del volh type=3Dstgreuse todate=3Dtoday-180
del volh type=3Drpffile todate=3Dtoday-10
(The number of days for the "type=3Drpfile" matches the number of days set
by DRMDBBACKUPEXPIRE and DRMRPFEXPIREDAYS.)=20
The reason I don't normally recommend "type=3Dall" is that doing so will
remove all references to export tapes and backupsets.
--
Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
IBM Certified Advanced Deployment Professional
Tivoli Storage Management Solutions 2005
Office 262.521.5627
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:08:37 +0200
From: Karin Dambacher
Subject: Antwort: Re: Programmes Guide
Hi,
what I want to do is: If there is a Restore coming to the tsm server, I
want to start a program before TSM starts the restore to do some work,
like prefetching tapes in a vts.
The restore is started via the tsm client gui, no other way.
In some other products, it is "calling an exit".
Thanks for help and ideas, Karin
Richard Sims
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Re: Programmes Guide
On Apr 14, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Karin Dambacher wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> does anyone know, where to find online (the) a TSM programmer's guide?
> Is there a possiblity to get a list of tapes, where are a client's
> data ?
> Not all tapes (I know this select), but if I want to do a "restore
> c:\home" only the tapes I need for that restore?
An often asked question... See "Restoral preview" in
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts . The essential answer is
that there is no way to get a list of the tapes needed for a given
restoral, partly because restoral candidates determination can be so
complex (read up on No Query Restore vs. Standard Restore to appreciate
the complexities), and largely because the running of enterprise level
facilities means that all resources are always available such that you
as a human don't need to know what tapes are needed: the enterprise
software and hardware takes care of all that for us meager humans.
You need to tell us more about what you need in terms of a
"programmer's guide". There isn't one, per se, for TSM in general -
only for the API - in that there's no user programming generally
involved in TSM. The product provides various information gathering
facilities (queries, SQL select, and ODBC) which usually suffice.
Richard Sims
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 10:30:07 -0400
From: Joe Crnjanski
Subject: Re: Exchange backup
Dell,
Thanks for reply. I knew there is a limit on exchange, but I didn't have
a time to investigate. If he says that he has 12 customers, I believe
him.
I opened PMR with tech support, and one of the suggestions was to
register 12 nodes for TDP on Exchange server (they have to confirm
that).
In this case we would be doing the backup for service provider, he is
ASP for exchange, and 12 customers are 12 end-users for exchange.
I know that would be easier for us just to provide backup service for
asp, so we can register one TDP node and in the case of the disaster we
would just restore whole exchange server.
But his customers want guarantee from us, that in any case (asp closes
the business, run away, don't care any more...) that they can get their
data back. That's why we are going through this hassle of trying to make
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