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Re: Number of HBA's

2005-02-09 15:07:30
Subject: Re: Number of HBA's
From: Orville Lantto <orville.lantto AT DATATREND DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:52:05 -0600
The point was that two HBAs for tape only provides bandwidth for  two tape
drives with compressible data, not four.  Many people seem to under
appreciate the bandwidth requirements of a properly designed tape system.
For database data, it is usually the disk that is to slow to achieve
optimum backup speeds.  Yes, you can run the tape drive at a slower speed,
but why design to do that?

Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.  (http://www.datatrend.com)
IBM Premier Business Partner
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Minnetonka, MN 55305
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Hi Orville!
I don't think this is really necessary since LTO2. LTO1 performance does
suffer when you can't keep the drive streaming, but LTO2 and 3 adjust
their
tape speed if they detect that the amount of incoming data is too low. So
there should not be any back-hitching here...
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


-----Original Message-----
From: Orville Lantto [mailto:orville.lantto AT DATATREND DOT COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 21:33
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Don't forget drive compression when making throughput calculations!  80
MB/sec * 4 (compression of text data) =320 MB/second as the maximum
available bandwidth  per LTO-3 drive.

Good Luck keeping ONE of these beasts streaming with high compression!



Orville L. Lantto
Datatrend Technologies, Inc.  (http://www.datatrend.com)
IBM Premier Business Partner
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Minnetonka, MN 55305
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                 The documents say you are supposed to NOT have SAN and
tape
devices running on the same HBAs.

                 I would expect you would use 2 HBAs to connect to the SAN
and 2
to connect to the tape drives. 2 cards have more than enough bandwidth
to support the 4 LTO3 drives.

Ben


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Stef Coene
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:03 PM
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Hi,

For a setup with:
- 4 x LTO3 drives in a IBM 3583 library
- 1 oracle database server: 40GB/1hr archives that needs to backuped
(AIX
LPAR) over the SAN
- 1 TSM server (AIX LPAR)

What with the HBA's?  Is it needed to split the tape and disk activity
and to put 4 HBA's in the oracle DB (2 HBA's for disk activitiy and 2
for tape)?

Idem for the TSM server.  2 HBA's or 4 HBA's?


Stef


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