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Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools

2004-11-17 13:48:47
Subject: Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools
From: TSM_User <tsm_user AT YAHOO DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:48:34 -0800
Mark,
Where did you get the information about "each backup session
(remember a client could have multiple session) opens a volume for
its exclusive use".

I can't find any documentation anywhere to support this.  I have heard other 
AIX admins make the same claim.  I have quite  few Windows TSM server that I am 
sure have more client sessions sending data (consumer threads) then I have disk 
pool volumes. I can't say I've ever run a q sess to see if the number of nodes 
sessions in a SEND state are greater than the number of volumes I have though.

Anyway, if this were true then I would have expected to find a performance 
tuning doc discussing this issue.  That is unless this is an AIX issue.

Not to call out Richard on this one but I have to ask "Richard, have you heard 
of this?".

"Mark D. Rodriguez" <mark AT MDRCONSULT DOT COM> wrote:
OK, so there seems to be some interest in how to layout disk pools on an
AIX system using JFS2 instead of raw lv's. I will try to keep this as
general as possible so please remember you must make some choices based
on your particular environment.

* In general I would rather have more small disks than a few large
as you will see. However, this would not apply if the larger disk
where 15K rpm vs. smaller disks of 10K rpm.
* Creating your hdisks - there are several possibilities here
depending on you environment.
o Small environments with only a few disk should use JBOD.
obviously you give up some safety over running RAID 1, 5 or
10 but small environments can't afford this anyway.
o Mid size and above should use one of the following configs
that fits there environment the best. If you will use RAID
5 then create several small arrays, 4 or 5 disks per array
is good if you have lots of disk then you can go as high as
8 per array. If you have a very large number of disks than
you can use either RAID 0 or 10, obviously RAID 10 will give
you some disk failure protection but at the cost of 2 x
actual space vs. usable space. Again 4 or 5 disk arrays (8
or 10 if RAID 10) will work well and as before you can go
larger if you have a very large number of disks to work with.
o The idea of using small arrays is so that you wind up with
as many hdisk's as possible. I like to have at least 4 or
5, but I have also worked in environments with over 50
hdisks each of which was a RAID array.
o NOTE: This section assumes you are not using any disk
virtualization. In virtualized environments you could have
logically created 4 disk arrays but physically they might
all be on the same set of disks. That situation could cause
some performance issues. Disk virtualization is way outside
the scope of this note.
* Create a VG from all the hdisks above, nothing tricky here.
* Create a JFS2 large file enabled file system on each disk. Make
sure the file system consume the entire hdisk and that it does not
span multiple disks. Any reasonably skilled AIX admin can do this
for you. In regards to the log file for these file systems for
absolute maximum performance you could dedicate a separate disk to
handle the logs, but in most cases simply selecting "in line" log
will do fine.
* NOTE: This is very important make sure that you add the mount
option of RBRW to each of these file systems. Also, it would help
to add this mount option to the file systems that contain your
ITSM DB and LOG. This option increases the I/O performance and
reduces the load on the system. You will also see a radical
reduction in system non-computational memory usage. Which means
you can use more memory for DB and LOG pages as well as for
network performance. For a more in depth discussion of this
option please refer to the AIX Performance Management Guide.
* Now create the storage pool volumes. The size of these volumes is
somewhat up to you, but I like to make sure that I have at least
as many volumes as I might have backup sessions writing to this
disk pool at any given time. That is because each backup session
(remember a client could have multiple session) opens a volume for
its exclusive use. Therefore if I have enough volumes they can
all run at once. NOTE: Again this is very important, when you
create your volumes for the storage pool make sure you use a round
robin approach to using the hdisks, i.e. if you have 10 hdisks
then create the first on hdisk1, second on hdisk2, third on
hdisk3, and so on so that 11th would be back on hdisk1. And you
must create them in sequential order! The reason for this is that
ITSM appears ( I have never seen the code nor have I had any
developers confirm this, although they all agree it appears to do
this) to use the volumes in the order they were created.
Therefore, I am sure that once a backup starts I will get all of
my hdisks in the game and the same thing will apply on migration.
* Some simple tunable system parameters, please note that when you
begin to do performance tuning you should know what you are doing
if you don't then get someone that does because you can cripple a
system if you are not careful. Having said that, you should
definitely adjust the min/max read ahead values
(j2_minPageReadAhead and j2_maxPageReadAhead) with the ioo command
a good starting point is 16/128. If you use the RBRW on the file
systems you won't need to make changes to minfree and maxfree
despite what some of the literature says you need do when you
increase the page ahead value. Minperm and maxperm parameters
have been talked about on lot on this list, but again if you are
using the RBRW mount option these values will have a marginal
effect since most of your non-computational memory usage will be
released immediately (without the use of the LRU). However, it
won't hurt any if you lower maxperm to 60% with the vmo command so
that you make sure that you have plenty of memory for
computational pages, i.e. ITSM DB and LOG pages as well as network
memory usage.
* One area of tuning that I can't cover here is tuning the path to
your disk and tape drives. There is just to many combinations
possible (SSA, SCSI, FC, iSCSI, etc.) to give any input. However
it is important that you address the performance issues of these
various communication paths. I will mention a couple of common
problems. Make sure that you don't overload you particular bus
technology, i.e. you can't put 6 LTO1 drives on the same SCSI
bus. So make sure you know the bandwidth of you bus and don't
overload it! Another common mistake is in FC environments, don't
have disk I/O traffic and tape I/O running over the same HBA this
just causes horrible performance and there is no amount of tuning
that can fix it! You must use separate HBA's and zone your switch
to make sure that traffic stays separate. SSA loops should have
at least 4 initiators, i.e. use at least 2 SSA cards on each loop,
and make sure that the SSA cards are connect as far away from each
other in the loop as possible.
* Some ITSM tunables. for the ITSM DB and LOG pages make sure you
have set BufPoolSize and LogPoolSize large enough so that you are
getting at least 99% Cache Hit Pct. on the DB and that your Log
Pool Pct. Wait is 0. Your MoveBatchSize and MoveSizeThresh should
be set to the max values, this will help things like migration and
storage pool backups.

This is a very general list of things you can do, but if you take these
guidelines and apply some common sense about your particular environment
I am sure that you can get very good performance out of your disk/tape
subsystems.

If you have any questions or comments on this than post them and lets
keep this discussion going.

--
Regards,
Mark D. Rodriguez
President MDR Consulting, Inc.

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Wells, William wrote:

>I would be interested in your post.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mark D. Rodriguez [mailto:mark AT MDRCONSULT DOT COM]
>Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 5:49 PM
>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>Subject: Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools
>
>
>Charles,
>
>I may be missing something here, but even your numbers out of the
>Symetrix seem pretty bad. Are you sure you didn't drop a "0"
>somewhere? I have one customer that I set up using SSA drives with JFS2
>filesystems and LTO1 drives and we average between 35 and 40MB/sec. and
>some days as high as 45MB/sec (compression of data plays a large
>factor). Your Symetrix at 40GB/hr is only 11.11MB/sec! BTW, this is
>with no unusual tuning to the system, since this was more than enough
>performance for their needs. With a little more tuning I could easily
>increase that by 50% and possibly double it if I really tried and that
>is ancient SSA technology. FC technology should be much faster.
>
>I know there are many people who prefer raw lvs for there disk pools,
>but on an AIX system I don't believe it is worth it. I have never had
>anyone show me raw lv numbers on AIX that I could not match (with far
>less hassle) with a good JFS2 configuration. If raw is the way you want
>to go than I wish you luck. However, if you are interested in switching
>to using a JFS2 approach I would be glad to post to the list some simple
>guidelines for configuring your environment to get much better
>performance than you are reporting in your post.
>
>--
>Regards,
>Mark D. Rodriguez
>President MDR Consulting, Inc.
>
>============================================================================
>===
>MDR Consulting
>The very best in Technical Training and Consulting.
>IBM Advanced Business Partner
>SAIR Linux and GNU Authorized Center for Education
>IBM Certified Advanced Technical Expert, CATE
>AIX Support and Performance Tuning, RS6000 SP, TSM/ADSM and Linux
>Red Hat Certified Engineer, RHCE
>============================================================================
>===
>
>
>Hart, Charles wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks you for the link.. Good info!
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
>>William F. Colwell
>>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 10:52 AM
>>To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
>>Subject: Re: TSM and SATA Disk Pools
>>
>>
>>Charles,
>>
>>See http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/tips0458.html?Open
>>
>>This was in a recent IBM redbooks newsletter. It discusses SATA
>>
>>
>performance
>
>
>>and to me it says that the tsm backup diskpool is not a good use for SATA.
>>Sequential volumes on SATA may be ok.
>>
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Bill
>>At 10:21 AM 11/12/2004, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Been asking lots of questions lately. ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>We recently have put our TSM Disk Backup Pools on Clarrion SATA.
>>> The TSM Server is being presented as 600GB SATA Chunks
>>> Our Aix Admin has put a Raw logical over two 600GB Chunks to create
>>>
>>>
>a 1.2TB Raw Logical Volume
>
>
>>>Right now we are seeing Tape migrations @ about 4GB in 6hrs, where before
>>>
>>>
>on EMC Symetrix disk we saw 29-40GB per hour. If anyone would like to share
>their TSM SATA Diskpool layout and or tips we would much appreciate it!!!
>
>
>>>TSM Env
>>>AIX 5.2
>>>TSM 5.2.4 (64bit)
>>>p630 4x4
>>>8x3592 FC Drives
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Charles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>----------
>>Bill Colwell
>>C. S. Draper Lab
>>Cambridge Ma.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




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