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Re: AW: AW: AW: delete filespace takes >24hours

2003-10-29 08:15:32
Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: delete filespace takes >24hours
From: John Naylor <john.naylor AT SCOTTISH-SOUTHERN.CO DOT UK>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:14:39 +0000
Joachim,
Not sure where to look further.
I do think your cache hit rate is a bit low.
My database statistics show      Available Space (MB): 27,936
        Assigned Capacity (MB): 27,936
        Maximum Extension (MB): 0
        Maximum Reduction (MB): 3,064
             Page Size (bytes): 4,096
            Total Usable Pages: 7,151,616
                    Used Pages: 5,453,023
                      Pct Util: 76.2
                 Max. Pct Util: 77.1
              Physical Volumes: 24
             Buffer Pool Pages: 12,288
         Total Buffer Requests: 112,683,745
                Cache Hit Pct.: 99.06
This was after running expiration in 4 hours 50 minutes which deleted q uite a
lot of objests
ANR0812I Inventory file expiration process 3 completed: examined 3750451
objects, deleting 415022 backup objects, 0 archive objects, 0 DB backup
volumes, and 0 recovery plan files. 0 errors were encountered.
My region size is 768 mb.  but my bufferpool is only half as big with a larger
database.
There was a thread about bufferpool and region sizes a while ago, which might be
 worth looking at.





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10/29/2003 11:54:30 AM

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yes on this TSM server runs the expire about 5 hours, the database should
have enough space
q db f=d:
Available Space (MB): 20,784
       Assigned Capacity (MB): 20,784
       Maximum Extension (MB): 0
       Maximum Reduction (MB): 3,644
           Page Size (bytes): 4,096
          Total Usable Pages: 5,320,704
                 Used Pages: 3,536,071
                   Pct Util: 66.5
              Max. Pct Util: 67.1
            Physical Volumes: 34
           Buffer Pool Pages: 24,576
        Total Buffer Requests: 349,306,341
              Cache Hit Pct.: 98.03
             Cache Wait Pct.: 0.00
         Backup in Progress?: No
   Type of Backup In Progress:
  Incrementals Since Last Full: 0
Changed Since Last Backup (MB): 1,119.86
          Percentage Changed: 8.11
Last Complete Backup Date/Time: 28.10.2003 16:08:19

thank you and regards

joachim


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Just trying a few ideas.
An ok expiration performance is one that you are happy with, so would be a
lot
less than 24 hours (say under 4 hours)
The discard data   with the volumes was just a thought, that maybe your
database
was nearly full, so did not have enough free space to build up the table for
the
full 160,000 delete
You did not provide database statistics





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what means an o.k. expiration performance?
why should it go faster to delete volumes(in 3 pools)?

thanks
joachim

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Is your expiration performance ok.
Do you know how many tapes this client has.
Maybe it would go faster with delete volume discarddata





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10/29/2003 09:31:25 AM

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some weeks ago we had memory problems, so the system is 'IBM checked' now.
No Resource Problem (800mb Regionsize, DB Bufferpool near 100MB), Cache Hit
Ratio is > 98.5% !



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Joachim,
I am on os390 2.10 expecting to go z/os shortly and I would expect that size
of
filespace to be deleted in an hour or so.
What does your DB cache hit rate show.
If you have any sort of performance monitor such as RMF, I would take a look
at
that to see if it thinks TSM is short of resource.
John




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Dear *SM Group

I have to delete filespaces. One of the delete process runs longer 24 hours.
the FI is apr. 150GB and 160000 Files in size.
How work the TSM DB? One select, one commit, one select one commit?
If i would create an sql select on an Oracle DB it would take a few second
to delete the entries!

Environment:

TSM Server 5.1.5.4 on Z/OS 1.3, enough memory,  cpu, cache hit etc.


Regards
Joachim










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