That's the "real" vs "virtual" processors Wanda was talking about, you have
only 2 processors for licensing. The extras are virtual and only matter to
applications that can use them like Micro$oft SQL2000.
Jim Murray
Senior Systems Engineer
Liberty Bank
860.638.2919
jmurray AT liberty-bank DOT com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Coats, Jack [mailto:Jack.Coats AT BANKSTERLING DOT COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 14:02
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: licensing (again... :( )
Now we have some Intel Xenon processors, for each single physical
processor, it shows 2 processors when using the M$ perfmonitor.
How many processors do I report? (we have several machines with
2 processors, but it looks like 4 processors to perfmon)
I havn't been able to get a satisfactory answer to this too!
TIA ... Jack 'bewildered by IBM licensing' C.
-----Original Message-----
From: Prather, Wanda [mailto:Wanda.Prather AT JHUAPL DOT EDU]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:27 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: licensing (again... :( )
No.
That is badly explained everywhere. Took us 3 tries to get quotes for our
maint renewal (1st quote was more than double what it should have been)
because EVERYONE is confused.
First, a TSM client is either a "server client" or a "workstation client"
depending on how it is used in YOUR organization.
If the machine provides SERVICES to other machines, it is a server. If it
is used standalone, it is a workstation/desktop.
If it is a 12-processor high-end machine used as a standalone research box,
it's still a workstation.
If it is a 1-processor 130mhz machine used as a print server or firewall,
its still a "server".
License costs, at least for your maintenance contracts, are DIFFERENT
depending on whether it is a server or a workstation/desktop.
This is documented in the IBM Price lists.
For "server clients", licensing is based on the number of processors (real,
not virtual) in the box.
For "workstation clients", the number of processors is irrelevant.
There are many sites that back up only "server clients". As a result
apparently some Tivoli folks/Business partners FORGET TO ASK about
workstation machines, and just ask "how many processors are you backing up",
which will result in higher charges than should be.
They need to calculate your maint charges on TWO numbers 1) the number of
server processors you are backing up, and 2) the number of workstations (not
workstation processors).
Hope that helps. Sigh.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stapleton, Mark [mailto:stapleto AT BERBEE DOT COM]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:13 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: licensing (again... :( )
From: Remco Post [mailto:r.post AT SARA DOT NL]
>since IBM now diffentiates it's TSM licensing fee based on the worksation
of
server role a system has in the company, I assume that IBM has some
definition of what that it thinks a server or a workstation is.<
Is this true? The last I heard, licensing is by processor count, regardless
of the software installed. (100 processors' worth of license could allow for
100 installations of TSM server on 100 1-processor boxes, for instance.)
--
Mark Stapleton (stapleton AT berbee DOT com)
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