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Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge

2003-09-18 21:52:10
Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge
From: "Pole, Stephen" <Stephen.Pole AT HEALTH.WA.GOV DOT AU>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:47:34 +0800
Well said Steve,

I concur backups to /dev/null run every so much faster, and really save on
tapes!! I've tried it....

No watch and see if someone actually takes the advise !! Hahahahahah

I wonder if these "so-called" managers are prepared to standup and be
counted when the site burns down and there is no "off-site" tapes to recall.
Doh!!

You forgot one thing though. Never have a disaster recover plan! Instead
have your CV ready! To easy!

Thanks so much for the humour, it's Friday, and it's made a good start to my
week-end.

:-))

Stephen

Quote of the day
"Backups to /dev/null run so much faster, and you save on tapes".



-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Harris [mailto:Steve_Harris AT HEALTH.QLD.GOV DOT AU]
Sent: 19 September, 2003 7:52 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge


Don't you hate it when management thinks that *any* cost is too much?

How about figuring out what a GFS system would cost in tapes to back up the
same as you do now.
Say you have a 90 day retention, that would cost say 10 daily copies + 3
weekly ones + 4 monthies or 17 full copies of the active data

You should  find that TSM is more economical with two copies than GFS is
with one.

Point this out to the Pointy Haired manager.

If that doesn't work, then point out how backups to /dev/null run so much
faster and use even less tape :)

Regards

Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia


>>> joseph_wholey AT ML DOT COM 19/09/2003 3:05:06 >>>
A "little" off the subject, and I already heard Richard Simms view on not
having a second copy...  but what are most shops doing with respect to a
second copy.
I'm in a pretty large shop and upper management, in a cost savings effort,
wants us to turn off the creation of a second tape copy.  I'm not too
comfortable with the idea.  What are "your" thoughts?

-----Original Message-----
From: Coats, Jack [mailto:Jack.Coats AT BANKSTERLING DOT COM]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:38 PM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge


Try doing a move data to get the data off of the tape.  If I find I am
starting to have problems I usually do a:

        update vol VOLUMENAME acc=reado
        move data VOLUMENAME

This should move all data that is recoverable from the volume to another
volume in the same storage pool.  I then eject the offending volume and
check it for apparent physical issues.  Then the part I hate:

        delete vol VOLUMENAME discarddata=yes

Sometimes I am able to re-label the volume and use it again.  But
typically it gets moved to a less critical use, returned to the vendor
for a new tape [my preferred method], or degaused and distroyed by
a certified vendor [least preferred, paying to have it thrown away].

If anyone has a better method, please let me know! ... JC

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerhard Rentschler [mailto:g.rentschler AT RUS.UNI-STUTTGART DOT DE]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:24 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge


Hello,
I forgot to mention that because of lack of resources I can't afford a
copypool for the backup files. I have one for the archives.
Best regards
Gerhard

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]On Behalf Of
> Juan Manuel Lopez Azanon
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:02 PM
> To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
> Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge
>
>
> Disaster recovery management: Restore it from outside volumes from copy
> stgpool
>



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